God's judgement on a pastor!

So true! I say that too.

 

Luk 12:48 For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Hbr 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that [is] unprofitable for you.

 

Charles Stanley

wasn't he divorced?

 

Yes

 

Yeah. So is God.

 

Yeah. So is God. </font>[/QUOTE]Excuse me?

 

Where is the believer's judgement described in the Bible?

 

Yes Charles Stanely is divorced. His wife left him. She suffered from mental problems I heard. So he never sinned. She left him and he hasn't remarried.

 

Where is the believer's judgement described in the Bible? </font>[/QUOTE]Psalm 50?

 

That's not what the verse says. It simply says that one who teaches will be judged more strictly. It does not say that one who teaches will receive greater punishment or anything of the like. The context appears to imply that the one who teaches will be held accountable for what he teaches. That's all.

 

Well, there are many mansions. But scriptuer is clear that we will be judged according to our works. Scripture also says many times that there are things we do or don't do that make us not fit for the Kingdom. That doesn't mean we won't enter the kingdom, just that we'll be unfit according to some of the things we do.

 

Ok now I am confused

How are Christians Pastors or not going to be judged ?

The Bible only talks about loss of rewards. some people are making it sound like something worse is going to happen. Besides not appreciating Heaven to a greater extent and loss of rewards.

What else is going to be worse than that ?

 

Well, there are many mansions. But scriptuer is clear that we will be judged according to our works. Scripture also says many times that there are things we do or don't do that make us not fit for the Kingdom. That doesn't mean we won't enter the kingdom, just that we'll be unfit according to some of the things we do. </font>[/QUOTE]Matthew 5:20
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

 

Where is the believer's judgement described in the Bible? </font>[/QUOTE]Psalm 50? </font>[/QUOTE]Psa 50:5 Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.

Psa 50:8 I will not reprove thee for thy sacrifices or thy burnt offerings, [to have been] continually before me.
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Well, I've never heard this interpretation before but we still seem to be talking about works (burnt sacrifice).

 

Where is the believer's judgement described in the Bible? </font>[/QUOTE]Psalm 50? </font>[/QUOTE]Psa 50:5 Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.

Psa 50:8 I will not reprove thee for thy sacrifices or thy burnt offerings, [to have been] continually before me.
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Well, I've never heard this interpretation before but we still seem to be talking about works (burnt sacrifice). </font>[/QUOTE]Absolutely the believer will be judged for works. But the judgment seat of Christ is not the same as the great white throne, only believers who were not able to stand at the judgment seat will be found at the great white throne. Then they will have all their tears wiped away as they enter into eternity with the Lord and the rest of their brethren. The unbelievers will go into the lake of fire. The only way anyone can be reigning with Christ in the millennium is for them to have been judged worthy of receiving the crown, which will occur at the judgment seat.

 

James_Newman, what do Matthew 5:20 and 7:21 have to do with my post?

As I said, scripture is clear that those who are saved will still be judged according to their works. Scripture also says many times that there are things we do or don't do that make us not fit for the Kingdom. That doesn't mean we won't enter the kingdom, just that we'll be unfit according to some of the things we do.

The verse of the OP does not say that one who teaches will receive greater punishment or anything of the like. It simply says that one who teaches will be judged more strictly. The context appears to imply that the one who teaches will be held accountable for what he teaches. That's all.

 

Condemnation, judgment, whatever. If there are no consequences, your 'accountability' is nothing but idle threats.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

This verse clearly states that entering the kingdom is conditioned upon doing the will of the Father. How do you get around this?

 

Uh, dude, there's a huge difference between judgement and condemnation. Condemnation is a form of judgement(or a result of judgement) but not all judgement is condemnation.

Who said anything about condemnation regarding accountability or consequences???

Who said anything about entering the kingdom?

The verse of the OP does not say that one who teaches will receive greater punishment or anything of the like. It simply says that one who teaches will be judged more strictly. The context appears to imply that the one who teaches will be held accountable for what he teaches. That's all. Nothing about entering the kingdom, condemnation, nothing.

 

Actually THE OP states:

 

</font>[/QUOTE]But the bible verse of the OP does not say that one who teaches will receive greater punishment or anything of the like. It simply says that one who teaches will be judged more strictly. Big difference.

James 3:1, Let not many of you become teachers, my brethern, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgement.