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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Apr 16, 2022.

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  1. JonC

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    You have always wanted to censure those who disagree with you, but no, brother, I am not going anywhere.

    When you slander and insult the brethern it does not make you look better. It does the opposite. And there is no need for it.

    Christians disagree. That is fine. We can learn through each other's disagreements.

    You hold a minority view within Christianity, so you will encounter more people (if you interact within Christianity as a whole) that disagree with you than agree.

    Don't let this be an opportunity to sin. Don't attack the brethern just because they disagree with your view.

    Within Calvinism there is a movement to move towards a more biblical position. So even if you restrict your interactions to the Reformed some will disagree with you.

    Disagreement is not a bad thing. As Spurgeon pointed out, Christianity as a whole is better for it.

    You have a heart to share God with people. But for some reason you attack brothers when they disagree with your views.

    The first thing a Christian needs to do, before evangelism, is seeing to their own heart. It is not right that you set yourself against the brethern.

    You are called to better things - gifted to do better things. God saved us to do good works that He has prepared for us to do. Not to attack our brothers, but to engage with them in the work of the kingdom.

    Like I said, Christians disagree. If you cannot handle others disagreeing with you, if you have to resort to false accusations, insults, slandering, trying to "expose" brothers, trying to "defeat" them, "shut them down", silence them, etc. then perhaps it would be best for you to take a break and prayerfully consider your walk.

    There is no harm in that. And before you mistake my post as an insult, it is not. Your post is not fitting given your calling. There is no harm in seeking help, or in simply taking some time off for yourself.
     
  2. Iconoclast

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    @Iconoclast[/USER] ,

    Get lost JonC
    I am not emotional or insecure.
    I am not going through anything.
    I have no desire to discuss anything with you.
    Go away. Your disruption and trolling is not welcome, Start your own thread.

    Does any member here think I am unclear in what I am saying to JonC?
    Maybe one of the readers can communicate it to him?
     
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    JonC,

    Get lost JonC.I interact with those who disagree all the time. You posts are creepy.
    Go away. Start your own thread
     
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  4. JonC

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    Lol...."creepy"?? Yet you wanted me to give you the names of churches I preached and taught at so you could visit and ask about me.
     
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    I think we all know what you are saying.

    You made several claims and false accusations you could not back up.

    I asked for evidence.

    You just want me to go away.

    Look, brother, all here can see you made a mistake (at best). We can all see the emotional responses in your posts, addressing a characterization of me rather than my posted beliefs.

    I was saying that if you are having personal problems, problems at home or at work, or going through some emotional issues then perhaps now would not be the time to post. As a destruction I'm sure it would be tempting, but you need to look after yourself first. This board is not that important.

    If you are fit to post, then all is good (I'm glad, I was just concerned as you have been very abusive lately).

    If you believe your claim, that I don't understand Calvinism, then simply ask me about the position.

    If you believe I was wrong to say the author of the article was in error when he placed explaining election over sharing the gospel then state your argument.

    But don't just continue attacking the brethern.
     
  6. Iconoclast

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    Hence, when the Evangelist gives an account of the preaching of the Gospel, he tells us, that all the cities had the Gospel preached in them. Acts 8:40. Likewise it came to pass, from this Universal Kingship of the Lord Jesus, {“and hath put all things under his feet,” Eph.1:22,} that kings themselves were exhorted to submit to Christ, Psal.2:10-12, as a greater King than themselves, and were foretold they should lay their hands upon their mouths, and not utter a word against it. {“So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.” Isa.52:15.} For God will have it so, or he will pull them out of their thrones as he hath not only threatened, but performed, both to Pagan and Papal monarchs. {“I will shake the heavens and the earth; and I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen.” Hag.2:21- 22.} Quite often where the Gospel of the Kingdom has been resisted, Psal.107:40, the LORD then hath destroyed the bloody instruments that did it, whilst he hath been saving his chosen by the Gospel, in giving drink, says he, Isa.43:20, “to my people, my chosen.” And whilst he has taken upon him to “avenge his own elect which cry day and night unto him,” Lk.18:7, the Gospel is a Gospel of Free Grace to His elect, and in it is displayed Christ's full prerogative, both as to them and all the world besides. Thus the Lord our Righteousness, Jer.23:6, will carry it on amidst the world, even his Gospel, as the proclamation of a Sovereign and Uncontrollable King, the High Magistrate, Justice and Judge, who will have his own laws stand, and make all other laws stoop and give way to His. We must preach Christ thus; and this indeed is good news to the elect, {hid for some time amongst the rest,} to strengthen their hearts.
     
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    I suggest you put JonC on ignore. Even if for a season, it is good to do so when reading their comments does nothing to edify the soul and only serves to create a spirit that is not Godward.
    Peace
     
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    JonC,

    Get lost, Go away. You are not my brother at all. stop being a troll
     
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    I do not believe in censorship and have never placed anyone on ignore.
    I am requesting he go away. Maybe if others see the same thing they can ask him to start his own thread of insults somewhere else.
     
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    Time to close
     
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