God's Word Verbatim

[JonC]

We had been discussing "what is written" ("every word that comes forth from God) in Scripture versus the various beliefs people say is taught by the Bible.

@Brightfame52 made a complaint that I at first dismissed, but should not have.

I posted what I believed and passages that stated (verbatim) my belief. Now, interpretations can vary, but the actual words were in tge biblical text.

I asked @Brightfame52 to provide the biblical text stating his belief. Initially he provided a verse abs thrn proceeded ti say what the verse "really" teaches. When I pointed out that his beluef was completely foreign to the actual text he offered the complaint.

He complained that what I was asking for was God's words, it was what God had actually said verbatim.

He is correct. And that is why I will never accept his belief.

We have God's Word, the words coming from God, "what is written".


IF God's words makes sence, if Scripture is complete, if it is perfect, then why do we need men to tell us what the Bible really means?

How can what any sect of "Christians" tell us the Bible teaches be superior to God's own words?

A teacher (a biblicsl teacher) teaches Gid's words, teaches and applies to the lives of church members "what is written", teaches "every word that comes from God". An unbiblical teacher teaches what he or she believes is taught by the Bible.

 

[atpollard]

Respectfully, I find that more often than not, God is “clear as mud”.
I would point to John 3 as “exhibit 1” and ask you to note that even the great teacher Nicodemus struggled to understand the simple, direct, literal “verbatim” words Jesus spoke to him.

Now excuse me, I need to go and hate my family before gouging out my eye.

 

[KenH]

IF God's words makes sence, if Scripture is complete, if it is perfect, then why do we need men to tell us what the Bible really means?

Acts 8:30-33
And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said,
Understandest thou what thou readest?
And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?
And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
The place of the scripture which he read was this,
He was led as a sheep to the slaughter;
And like a lamb dumb before his shearer,
So opened he not his mouth:
In his humiliation his judgment was taken away:
And who shall declare his generation?
For his life is taken from the earth.

2 Timothy 2:2
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.

Romans 10:13-15
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written,
How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

(emphasis mine)

 

[JonC]

Acts 8:30-33
And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said,
Understandest thou what thou readest?
And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?
And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
The place of the scripture which he read was this,
He was led as a sheep to the slaughter;
And like a lamb dumb before his shearer,
So opened he not his mouth:
In his humiliation his judgment was taken away:
And who shall declare his generation?
For his life is taken from the earth.

2 Timothy 2:2
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.

Romans 10:13-15
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written,
How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

(emphasis mine)

EXACTLY!!!!!!!

Biblical teachers were never men who tell people what they thi k Bible "really means". They are men who teach "what is written" and apply God's Word to the lives of men. Phillip's evangelism is a good examole. He went through Scripture explaining how the OT was fulfilled in Christ. And Jesus taught this to His Disciples on the road to Emmaus. Paul does this in his epistles.

But our faith is a narrow way. Men will gravitate to the teachings of men - what various men tell them the Bible teaches.

Christians, however, lean not on their understanding but on every word from God, on "what is written".

The teacher shoukd teach God's Word and not stray from "what is written".