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GOP 'Begging For America To Fail'

Rev. my fear of the Tea Party is that they will effectively kill the GOP and we will truly be left a country with only one political party ...
At which time -- an extremely unlikely event, but for argument's sake -- you will dance in the streets and shout from the rooftops. Or did you think we don't know the extremity of your politics?
 

Crabtownboy

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At which time -- an extremely unlikely event, but for argument's sake -- you will dance in the streets and shout from the rooftops. Or did you think we don't know the extremity of your politics?

No, that will be a time of sack cloth and sorrow. As I said history has shown the lesson over and over as to how bad it is for a country to have only one political party.

As I have said in a number of posts in the past, I voted Republican pretty consistently until the Southern Policy took over and the GOP became bigoted and at war with the poor. I did not change. The Republican Party changed. Perhaps you are too young to remember that change, I am not sure. When the GOP becomes rational again and in favor of helping all Americans I may well switch back.

My guess is you will not agree with me. But that is the truth from my perspective.
 

Crabtownboy

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One of the big problems since Nine Eleven has been Freedom of Conscience and the erosion of that basic freedom by the Democrats.

My friend, the Patriot Act that took away many of your freedoms was passed when the GOP was in control. Please don't rewrite history.
 

church mouse guy

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My friend, the Patriot Act that took away many of your freedoms was passed when the GOP was in control. Please don't rewrite history.

Oh, I am only dealing with freedom of conscience, a subject not addressed by the Patriot Act. Obama has carried forth the Patriot Act. In fact, I don't see any rebuttal in your comment that the Democrats and the Post-Modernists, not to mention the Modernists, have much concern about freedom of conscience.
 

church mouse guy

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No, that will be a time of sack cloth and sorrow. As I said history has shown the lesson over and over as to how bad it is for a country to have only one political party.

As I have said in a number of posts in the past, I voted Republican pretty consistently until the Southern Policy took over and the GOP became bigoted and at war with the poor. I did not change. The Republican Party changed. Perhaps you are too young to remember that change, I am not sure. When the GOP becomes rational again and in favor of helping all Americans I may well switch back.

My guess is you will not agree with me. But that is the truth from my perspective.

I can't imagine why a Democrat would want an opposition party except for window dressing. The Democrats have controlled Congress since 1932 even when there has been a Republican President. It is the Democrats who elevated Keynes to the status of demi-god in a pantheon that includes Darwin, Freud, Dewey, and Wellhausen, among others.

As for your historical reference to the so-called Southern Policy, that, too, is invalid because my grandfathers were GOP conservatives long before FDR and we are/were Taft Republicans, although I myself like Ike.

In short, the Dems have dominated for the last eighty years and if the GOP, which came into being in 1854 in Ripon, Wisconsin, ceases then the mantle passes to the Taxed Enough Already Party to solve the economic problems now facing the USA.
 
No, that will be a time of sack cloth and sorrow. As I said history has shown the lesson over and over as to how bad it is for a country to have only one political party.
You as a cheerleader for the socialist movement of the Democratic Party have certainly done your share to see to it that they are the only one standing. I don't buy your crocodile tears, sorry.
 
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Revmitchell

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Rev. my fear of the Tea Party is that they will effectively kill the GOP and we will truly be left a country with only one political party ... and that, as history has shown us over and over, is a recipe for disaster.

Well let me ease your "fear" the Tea Party is the only thing keeping the GOP alive. And Obama and Ried do not want the GOP alive.
 

church mouse guy

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Uhhh ... no.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

See the chart about a third of the way down.

The chart does not go back to 1932, the beginning of Democrat dominance in American government. A Republican President only had a Republican Congress twice--for a couple of years under Ike and for perhaps four years under G.W. Bush. Other than that Democrats have controlled at least one house of Congress and now they control the Senate and the White House. The GOP has been in eclipse for the last 80 years. Under FDR, there was total Democrat control. Often the people have voted for gridlock.
 

JohnDeereFan

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Never heard Rush say he wanted America to fail. You want it to fail. We all know that. But never heard Rush say so.

Rush didn't say he wanted America to fail. He said he wanted Obama to fail and I agree with him in the same sense that, if a bear were mauling my child to death, I would want the bear to fail.
 

Don

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Well let me ease your "fear" the Tea Party is the only thing keeping the GOP alive. And Obama and Ried do not want the GOP alive.

Shucks, Rev; the way they've acted in this whole affair, I don't think half the GOP wants to keep the GOP alive....
 

FR7 Baptist

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It's amazing to me how low the 'Publican Party has fallen. They are engaging in economic terrorism and governing by temper tantrum. I think this may be the point where the GOP jumps the shark and ceases to be a major political factor. If the Repukes succeed in shutting down the government and causing a default on our debt, it will have major fiscal ramifications.

Let's break it down to what it really is. We have a Democratic Senate and President and a Republican House. The Republicans like to claim to have a mandate, but that is an outright lie. Democratic House candidates got over a million more votes than the 'Publicans. The only reason the GOP controls the House is because of gerrymandering. Further, if John Boehner would allow a fair up-or-down vote on the clean continuing resolution it would pass. The reason he doesn't is because of the Teabaggers. We have a Teabagger minority of one house of Congress holding a gun to the head of the American people. The GOP list of demands grows larger and larger and I commend the President and Democrats for standing up to them.

As bad as this is, it is only one example of the shortcomings in both major parties. I believe the only real solution will be the rise of a third party to clean up the mess.
 

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It's amazing to me how low the 'Publican Party has fallen. They are engaging in economic terrorism and governing by temper tantrum. I think this may be the point where the GOP jumps the shark and ceases to be a major political factor. If the Repukes succeed in shutting down the government and causing a default on our debt, it will have major fiscal ramifications.

Apparently someone directly recieves the DNC talking points.

Let's break it down to what it really is. We have a Democratic Senate and President and a Republican House. The Republicans like to claim to have a mandate, but that is an outright lie. Democratic House candidates got over a million more votes than the 'Publicans. The only reason the GOP controls the House is because of gerrymandering. Further, if John Boehner would allow a fair up-or-down vote on the clean continuing resolution it would pass. The reason he doesn't is because of the Teabaggers. We have a Teabagger minority of one house of Congress holding a gun to the head of the American people. The GOP list of demands grows larger and larger and I commend the President and Democrats for standing up to them.

As bad as this is, it is only one example of the shortcomings in both major parties. I believe the only real solution will be the rise of a third party to clean up the mess.

Do you realize the term you have used here in reference to the Tea Party is a gross sexual slang that should never be used on this board.
 

JohnDeereFan

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It's amazing to me how low the 'Publican Party has fallen. They are engaging in economic terrorism and governing by temper tantrum. I think this may be the point where the GOP jumps the shark and ceases to be a major political factor. If the Repukes succeed in shutting down the government and causing a default on our debt, it will have major fiscal ramifications.

Let's break it down to what it really is. We have a Democratic Senate and President and a Republican House. The Republicans like to claim to have a mandate, but that is an outright lie. Democratic House candidates got over a million more votes than the 'Publicans. The only reason the GOP controls the House is because of gerrymandering. Further, if John Boehner would allow a fair up-or-down vote on the clean continuing resolution it would pass. The reason he doesn't is because of the Teabaggers. We have a Teabagger minority of one house of Congress holding a gun to the head of the American people. The GOP list of demands grows larger and larger and I commend the President and Democrats for standing up to them.

As bad as this is, it is only one example of the shortcomings in both major parties. I believe the only real solution will be the rise of a third party to clean up the mess.

I'm not even a Republican and I find this offensive.
 
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Bro. Curtis

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It's amazing to me how low the 'Publican Party has fallen. They are engaging in economic terrorism and governing by temper tantrum. I think this may be the point where the GOP jumps the shark and ceases to be a major political factor. If the Repukes succeed in shutting down the government and causing a default on our debt, it will have major fiscal ramifications.

Let's break it down to what it really is. We have a Democratic Senate and President and a Republican House. The Republicans like to claim to have a mandate, but that is an outright lie. Democratic House candidates got over a million more votes than the 'Publicans. The only reason the GOP controls the House is because of gerrymandering. Further, if John Boehner would allow a fair up-or-down vote on the clean continuing resolution it would pass. The reason he doesn't is because of the Teabaggers. We have a Teabagger minority of one house of Congress holding a gun to the head of the American people. The GOP list of demands grows larger and larger and I commend the President and Democrats for standing up to them.

As bad as this is, it is only one example of the shortcomings in both major parties. I believe the only real solution will be the rise of a third party to clean up the mess.

You should clean up your own mess.

As to the O/P

Also, I'd like to see a link to Rush wishing America failure.

I love Bill Clinton, in the video, saying he'll be "shocked" if obamacare doesn't work.

Do you consider Clinton an unbiased source ? Wasn't Clinton, like, disbarred, y'know, for like, jury tampering, lying under oath, all in order to hide an illicit affair from the press ? Didn't a scandal called "Whitewater", like, come pretty close to making him and his wife bankrupt, not too long ago ?

What is it you hate about republicans, again ?
 
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It's amazing to me how low the 'Publican Party has fallen. They are engaging in economic terrorism and governing by temper tantrum. I think this may be the point where the GOP jumps the shark and ceases to be a major political factor. If the Repukes succeed in shutting down the government and causing a default on our debt, it will have major fiscal ramifications.

Let's break it down to what it really is. We have a Democratic Senate and President and a Republican House. The Republicans like to claim to have a mandate, but that is an outright lie. Democratic House candidates got over a million more votes than the 'Publicans. The only reason the GOP controls the House is because of gerrymandering. Further, if John Boehner would allow a fair up-or-down vote on the clean continuing resolution it would pass. The reason he doesn't is because of the Teabaggers. We have a Teabagger minority of one house of Congress holding a gun to the head of the American people. The GOP list of demands grows larger and larger and I commend the President and Democrats for standing up to them.

As bad as this is, it is only one example of the shortcomings in both major parties. I believe the only real solution will be the rise of a third party to clean up the mess.
Thank you for making an incognito appearance, Mr. Great Pretender to the Presidency and Leadership of the Free World. I'm amazed you have taken time from your busy schedule of complete misunderstanding of, and utter failure to execute properly, the office associated with your occupancy of the White House, and as with all your moronic inanities, we will feel free to take them with a giant block of salt and ignore them.
 

Aaron

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Rush didn't say he wanted America to fail. He said he wanted Obama to fail and I agree with him in the same sense that, if a bear were mauling my child to death, I would want the bear to fail.
That's my point. CBT lying, and we all were told who is the father of lies.
 

Crabtownboy

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Rush didn't say he wanted America to fail. He said he wanted Obama to fail and I agree with him in the same sense that, if a bear were mauling my child to death, I would want the bear to fail.

As any president has so much power and so much influence it becomes obvious that anyone who says they want a president to fail is in essence saying they want America to fail.

I do not want either to fail ... regardless of who is president, regardless of what party they represent ... regardless of what year it is.

I want both to succeed.


Rush Limbaugh is saying that he wants Obama to fail. What he doesn't understand…

… is that if Obama fails then America fails. We have already had 8 years of failure because of Rush Limbaugh types and that's why we are failing as badly as we are now. But in the last election we voted failure out and America chose a path to success. I think it's time for Rush Limbaugh to fail. If Limbaugh loses his job it will show America has turned its back on hate radio and is back on the right track.

http://www.americanpolitics.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2175&Itemid=35
 
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