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[Ben1445]

You are too easy to troll, or too many of your neighbors like the idea (which is a rumor going around). But if you join us, I would welcome you too. With no hard feelings.

 

[Silverhair]

You are too easy to troll, or too many of your neighbors like the idea (which is a rumor going around). But if you join us, I would welcome you too. With no hard feelings.

I copied the link to where @xlsdraw said this

"And which imperialist country do you live in?" post #80

But it kept giving me the wrong link

So you can see I was responding to his comment.

But the answer would be the same to you Ben

The only nations I have seen that are imperialist are China, Russia, and the USA.

 

[Silverhair]

Just proved my point Ben.

The guy sounds like he has imperialist views just about every time he opens his mouth.

 

[xlsdraw]

imperialist​

NOUN

promoter of empire

The only countries that I se that want to build empires are China, Russia, and of course the USA.

Since I do not live in any of those I do not live in a country with imperialist ambitions.

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I would say that you Globalists and your beloved International Law, which is Humanism, are indeed imperialists. Exactly what the Antichrist ordered.

Besides the fact, that most of the European nations have a long history of Imperialism. Likely, including yours. Hence, indeed, European hypocrisy.

 

[atpollard]

Do you remember when Nazi's hiding in South America were kidnapped (not by the USA) and returned to Europe to stand trial for War Crimes?

Do you not know that invading another country to kidnap a person is against the law?

So you are saying that it was wrong to bring those Nazis to justice?

When have I even suggested that?

Post #105 when your response to “Do you remember when Nazi's hiding in South America were kidnapped (not by the USA) and returned to Europe to stand trial for War Crimes?” was “Do you not know that invading another country to kidnap a person is against the law?”.

Why was it “good illegal” to kidnap Nazis and ”bad illegal” to kidnap Terrorist Despots (both to stand trial)?
Why do YOU have a double standard?

I argue that the prosecution of EVIL is always a good thing and “International Law” is a fiction.

 

[Silverhair]

I would say that you Globalists and your beloved International Law, which is Humanism, are indeed imperialists. Exactly what the Antichrist ordered.

Besides the fact, that most of the European nations have a long history of Imperialism. Likely, including yours. Hence, indeed, European hypocrisy.

Odd how you do not think the laws apply to the US.

Amazing how you will say anything to justify the unlawful actions of the US.

I bet you would howl like mad if it was the US that had been invaded.

Now lets see who the hypocrite is.

 

[Silverhair]

Post #105 when your response to “Do you remember when Nazi's hiding in South America were kidnapped (not by the USA) and returned to Europe to stand trial for War Crimes?” was “Do you not know that invading another country to kidnap a person is against the law?”.

Why was it “good illegal” to kidnap Nazis and ”bad illegal” to kidnap Terrorist Despots (both to stand trial)?
Why do YOU have a double standard?

I argue that the prosecution of EVIL is always a good thing and “International Law” is a fiction.

I was responding to your
What law was violated?

But since you brought up those who had actually done war crimes what war crimes has Maduro done? I have not heard of any but you may have heard of some.

Was does the US figure that it can be judge and jury of the world? The arrogance of the US is astounding.

Has Maduro attack the US, NO did he sell drugs to the US, NO. Do US citizens buy illegal drugs that cross the US border and that the US fails to stop, YES.

By your logic your leader is just as much of a terrorist as Maduro actually more so as he has not stopped the drugs from coming in to the US. Shame on him.

Do you not find it strange that he wants to blame every other country for the troubles you have in the US.

 

[Silverhair]

These are not my words but they do show how the world see the US.

"The job is barely done in Venezuela, and we are invited, not least by Trump courtiers themselves, to ask, where next? On the menu are the overthrow of the elected leader of Colombia, a coup against the Cuban regime and even a shock-and-awe (or land-and-ice) grab for Greenland.

his pageantry is all part of a White House plan, laid out in last year’s national security strategy, to make the US “pre-eminent” in the Western Hemisphere, protecting its “access to key geographies throughout the region”.

So it is obvious that he has Imperialist dreams.

The fact that so many in the US can or rather will not see this is sad indeed.

So live in your fantasy that invading a sovereign country is really justified because your fearless leaders says it was.

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[atpollard]

But since you brought up those who had actually done war crimes what war crimes has Maduro done? I have not heard of any but you may have heard of some.

I have no idea what crime Maduro is accused of in the indictment, only that he was previously indicted by a U.S. court and was being “kidnapped” to stand trial based on those charges that had already been made against him (which I believe predate Trump).

Other nations have charged him with holding a coup and human rights violations, but that is not why the U.S. arrested him. He was arrested based on pending charges in a U.S. court.

(Your other questions seemed more rhetorical.)

 

[atpollard]

I was responding to your
What law was violated?

I am a little fuzzy on your answer.
Exactly what law was violated?
What law says that it is illegal to enter another country and arrest a Terrorist?

(I already established that U.S. law was not violated.)

 

[Silverhair]

I have no idea what crime Maduro is accused of in the indictment, only that he was previously indicted by a U.S. court and was being “kidnapped” to stand trial based on those charges that had already been made against him (which I believe predate Trump).

Other nations have charged him with holding a coup and human rights violations, but that is not why the U.S. arrested him. He was arrested based on pending charges in a U.S. court.

(Your other questions seemed more rhetorical.)

So you think kidnapping and invading a sovereign nation is OK. Odd since of justice you have.

 

[Silverhair]

I am a little fuzzy on your answer.
Exactly what law was violated?
What law says that it is illegal to enter another country and arrest a Terrorist?

(I already established that U.S. law was not violated.)

No what you did is try to establish that US law is the law of the world. You failed. Kidnapping is a crime even in the US or did you forget that?

 

[atpollard]

So you think kidnapping and invading a sovereign nation is OK. Odd since of justice you have.

You are protesting a criminal who murdered his own people being dragged into court for a trial … and I have an “odd sense of justice”?

 

[atpollard]

No what you did is try to establish that US law is the law of the world. You failed. Kidnapping is a crime even in the US or did you forget that?

So the police should stop “kidnapping” bank robbers and forcing them into court?
When the government takes a criminal into custody to face trial in a court, it is not “kidnapping”.

 

[atpollard]

@Silverhair

What law says that it is illegal to enter another country and arrest a Terrorist?

 

[Silverhair]

You are protesting a criminal who murdered his own people being dragged into court for a trial … and I have an “odd sense of justice”?

No, what I am saying is wrong is that the US invaded a sovereign country and kidnapped the head of state.

If Maduro had gone to another country and they arrested him there that is one thing but what the US did makes them not better that him.

 

[Silverhair]

So the police should stop “kidnapping” bank robbers and forcing them into court?
When the government takes a criminal into custody to face trial in a court, it is not “kidnapping”.

In there own country, The US invaded another country, How do you not understand that?

Trump broke the law just as much as Maduro did. Why is he not arrested for an unsanctioned invasion of a sovereign country?

 

[Silverhair]

@Silverhair

What law says that it is illegal to enter another country and arrest a Terrorist?

What makes it right to invade another country to arrest the head of state.

And remember the US calls him a terrorist but what terrorist actions has he done?

I have not heard of any attempts by Maduro to overthrow the US or blow up any US buildings.

 

[atpollard]

What makes it right to invade another country to arrest the head of state.

You need to anchor that goalpost ... are you arguing "right" or "legal".
[PS. He was NOT the head of state, he lost the last election ... your precious "International Law" viewed him as illegitimate ... he was an invader.]

And remember the US calls him a terrorist but what terrorist actions has he done?

That is a matter of fact to be established in a court of law ... a court indicted him.

I have not heard of any attempts by Maduro to overthrow the US or blow up any US buildings.

So what?
Your knowledge or ignorance is irrelevant to the morality or legality of what any nation does.
I have not heard of any attempts by Hamas "to overthrow the US or blow up any US buildings" ... does that mean they are not Terrorists, either?

 

[atpollard]

The US invaded another country

No it did not.
The army entered and left. An "invasion" looks like Russia in Ukraine where the army enters and stays.