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Grace and discipleship

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HisWordIsTruth

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One can say Jesus is their Lord and not have Him as Lord.
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Wow common ground between myself and standingfirm has been reached. What does that say for you standingfirm ;). Better yet what does it say for me :laugh:
 
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Amy.G

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If anyone is interested in knowing why we are calling out HWIT as being J Jump in reality, just do a search on the BB for "millennial exclusion" or "ME" or J Jump and you will see what total heresy he pushes as doctrine. He was banned, came back under another name, banned again, came back, banned again, now is back again.



JJ, I am just as militant now as I was last year about your ME heresy. There is no doubt in my mind that you will be pushing it again if you're allowed to stay this time. I've got my Sword in hand and I'm ready to defend the truth. So be ready!
 
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Amy.G

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Originally Posted by Steven2006
And just think, I was trying to stay above the fray and be a peace maker
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Palatka51 said:
It's very hard to be one these days. Blessings brother and be encouraged. :godisgood:
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Guys, this is one thing that is definitely worth fighting for. It comes under the command to "contend for the faith".

Jud 1:3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.


It is false doctrines that are killing the church. We must fight against them.
 
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Palatka51

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Amy.G said:
Guys, this is one thing that is definitely worth fighting for. It comes under the command to "contend for the faith".

Jud 1:3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.


It is false doctrines that are killing the church. We must fight against them.
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I just went over to a web site of "Kingdom Baptist" and read up on their beliefs. I couldn't agree with you more Amy. Faust must have came out of the JW's or he was kicked out for believing in Hell. Either way his theology is screwy.
Praise God though I am saved from Wrath and that is what Hell is.
 
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standingfirminChrist

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HisWordIsTruth said:
Wow common ground between myself and standingfirm has been reached. What does that say for you standingfirm ;). Better yet what does it say for me :laugh:
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You seem to be wavering in your beliefs, HWIT.

You agree with me that not all who call Him Lord have Him as Lord.

Yet you say all one has to believe in Him to be saved.

If they call Him Lord, it is obvious they believe in Him. So your agreeing that not all who call Him Lord do not have Him as Lord flies in the face of your doctrine that all one has to believe to be saved and that they do not have to repent or confess.
 
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Revmitchell

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Kind of requires a third resurrection doesn't it? More than scripture gives. I will participate in the first one but woe unto those that take part in that 2nd one. :tear: :tear:
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Certainly requires two salvations.
 
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HisWordIsTruth

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I am just as militant now
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Amy it certainly hasn't taken reading many of your threads to understand that you are "definitely" militant.

Can you please explain how being "militant" is going to help you in any walk of life, especially in the case of sharing what you believe truth to be with someone that you think is in error?

Don't you think "love" would be a much more appropriate and Biblical approach as opposed to your self-proclaimed attitude?
 
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HisWordIsTruth

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You seem to be wavering in your beliefs, HWIT.
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Not at all standingfirm. Not all all.

You agree with me that not all who call Him Lord have Him as Lord.
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Not necessarily agree with "you" per se as much as we both believe what the Scripture says on the matter and Scripture clearly states such to be the truth.

Yet you say all one has to believe in Him to be saved.
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I believe it was Paul and Silas, possibly a few more of their companions as "they" said believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.

I just believe them to be espousing truth!

If they call Him Lord, it is obvious they believe in Him.
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I would agree, but just because they believe in His finished works on the cross on their behalf a sinner, doesn't mean they are going to follow in discipleship.

Again two different topics. Two different contexts. You can't mix the two, because that leads to a works-based plan of salvation.

And you folks are so quick to say others are involved in heresy, but there are a number of folks here that are espousing a back-loaded works-based plan of salvation which is a heresy, but you don't speak out against it, you welcome it with open arms.
 
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Revmitchell

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Not at all standingfirm. Not all all.

Not necessarily agree with "you" per se as much as we both believe what the Scripture says on the matter and Scripture clearly states such to be the truth.

I believe it was Paul and Silas, possibly a few more of their companions as "they" said believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.

I just believe them to be espousing truth!

I would agree, but just because they believe in His finished works on the cross on their behalf a sinner, doesn't mean they are going to follow in discipleship.

Again two different topics. Two different contexts. You can't mix the two, because that leads to a works-based plan of salvation.

And you folks are so quick to say others are involved in heresy, but there are a number of folks here that are espousing a back-loaded works-based plan of salvation which is a heresy, but you don't speak out against it, you welcome it with open arms.
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So what happens to those who are believers but not disciples at the millenium.
 
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HisWordIsTruth

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So what happens to those who are believers but not disciples at the millenium.
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You tell me? What does the Scripture say about the matter? Does Scripture speak to this question in your mind?

But revmitchell you need to slow the train down a little bit because obviously you still have issues with the simple message of believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.

Let's look at what the Scriptures have to say on this matter shall we? You have been quick to critize, but I have seen no Scriptural look at why I am incorrect. Would you care to put that forth? If I am wrong as you have stated, then surely Scripture backs up what you have said, doesn't it?
 
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Revmitchell

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HisWordIsTruth said:
You tell me? What does the Scripture say about the matter? Does Scripture speak to this question in your mind?
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You seem to carefully answer questions that will not implicate you with ME but avoid those that will. Jason
 
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Revmitchell

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Amy.G said:
If anyone is interested in knowing why we are calling out HWIT as being J Jump in reality, just do a search on the BB for "millennial exclusion" or "ME" or J Jump and you will see what total heresy he pushes as doctrine. He was banned, came back under another name, banned again, came back, banned again, now is back again.



JJ, I am just as militant now as I was last year about your ME heresy. There is no doubt in my mind that you will be pushing it again if you're allowed to stay this time. I've got my Sword in hand and I'm ready to defend the truth. So be ready!
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Amy he will not espouse ME openly. That would get him exposed and banned yet again. But sooner or later he will slip up like he did when he was using seekinghistruth and he will be gone.
 
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Amy.G

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HisWordIsTruth said:
Amy it certainly hasn't taken reading many of your threads to understand that you are "definitely" militant.

Can you please explain how being "militant" is going to help you in any walk of life, especially in the case of sharing what you believe truth to be with someone that you think is in error?

Don't you think "love" would be a much more appropriate and Biblical approach as opposed to your self-proclaimed attitude?
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I don't call people names. I don't question other's salvation. I do speak my mind. And I don't "love" false doctrines and I will fight against them even if people don't like me for it. There is no peace when there's war. In order to defend the faith as Jude calls for, sometimes it makes people angry and yes, it is a war. A war against the lies and deception of the devil.
I think it is far more loving to expose the lies of false teachings than to ignore it because I am afraid I might offend someone.
Ignoring false teachings and not defending the faith is what has caused so much apostasy in the church today.

I don't attack the person, I attack the false doctrines they teach. You have lied by refusing to admit that you are J Jump and deceiving posters on this board. You are hardly qualified to tell me that I am not being loving.
 
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standingfirminChrist

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Maybe an Administrator needs to come in and ask HWIT who he really is, if he was banned in the past, and if he embraces the heretical doctrine of ME... because it is quite obvious he is hiding something, else he would be be evading our questions.
 
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HisWordIsTruth

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But sooner or later he will slip up like he did when he was using seekinghistruth and he will be gone.
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I asked this question a while back and it went unanswered which is not surprsing, but where did SeekingHisTruth speak in favor of this doctrine. I could not find this poster associated with that doctrine.

Can you point me to a thread where this person espoused this?

The only thing that I can find is that you revmitchell accused SeekingHisTruth to be Jason Jump. Kind of a pattern for you isn't it :).

Did you have any "real" proof that SeekingHisTruth was Jason Jump? Just curious ;).
 
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standingfirminChrist

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We also asked questions that have gone unanswered, HisWordIsTruth.

How about answering our questions? Were you, or were you not on this board last year under a different name that was banned?
 
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