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Gun Laws and Socialized Medicine in Europe.

Yeshua1

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Yes. So is adultery and hypocrisy. In fact Jesus wouldn't deal with hypocrites. Many in the church today are in this category.
Many are also being hypocrites for telling others that God loves them and saves them, but no need to come out of their gay/lesbian lifestyles though!
 

FollowTheWay

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Many are also being hypocrites for telling others that God loves them and saves them, but no need to come out of their gay/lesbian lifestyles though!
Are you claiming that you don't think God wants all to be saved if they come to Him? Not Biblical.
 

Adonia

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Statistically there are more guns in the U.S. than citizens.

So then death's by guns should be much higher then they are, but they are not. They way you guys talk about it we should be seeing shootouts all the time, but that simply isn't the case. Statistics are funny things and the anti-gun crowd lumps them all into one. They don't differentiate between a person using a firearm to defend oneself (justifiable homicide), police shooting persons engaged in criminal behavior, gangbangers shooting one another over turf, or death's due to simple firearms accidents. Factor all those cases in and overall gun deaths drop down to very few incidents.
 
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Yeshua1

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Are you claiming that you don't think God wants all to be saved if they come to Him? Not Biblical.
No, I am saying that we cannot teach that God will save them, and yet does not also want them to get out of that sinful lifestyle!
 

Yeshua1

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So then death's by guns should be much higher then they are, but they are not. They way you guys talk about it we should be seeing shootouts all the time, but that simply isn't the case. Statistics are funny things and the anti-gun crowd lumps them all into one. They don't differentiate between a person using a firearm to defend oneself (justifiable homicide), police shooting persons engaged in criminal behavior, gangbangers shooting one another over turf, or death's due to simple firearms accidents. Factor all those cases in and overall gun deaths drop down to very few incidents.
Chicago has some of the toughest gun regulation in America, and yet every weekend it becomes shootout at the OK Carroll!
 

FollowTheWay

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Chicago has some of the toughest gun regulation in America, and yet every weekend it becomes shootout at the OK Carroll!

The U.S. has almost 5 intentional homicides per 100K population per year. Among other non-Communist industrialized nations, Belgium, Canada, Finland, France, Hungary, Romania, Israel, Serbia and Sweden have between 1 and 1.9. The rest have 1 or less (UK, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, etc.). Countries ranked by Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people)

Why? We have 1.2 civilian firearms per capita while the rest of the industrialized world has 0.35 or less.
Estimated number of civilian guns per capita by country - Wikipedia

It doesn't take an involved analysis to see what the problem is. America has far too many guns.
 

Yeshua1

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The U.S. has almost 5 intentional homicides per 100K population per year. Among other non-Communist industrialized nations, Belgium, Canada, Finland, France, Hungary, Romania, Israel, Serbia and Sweden have between 1 and 1.9. The rest have 1 or less (UK, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, etc.). Countries ranked by Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people)

Why? We have 1.2 civilian firearms per capita while the rest of the industrialized world has 0.35 or less.
Estimated number of civilian guns per capita by country - Wikipedia

It doesn't take an involved analysis to see what the problem is. America has far too many guns.
No, it has far to many liberal judges and others who want to deny constitutional rights to law abiding citizens, for if we outlawed all guns here, do you think the criminals would bring them in also?
 

FollowTheWay

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No, it has far to many liberal judges and others who want to deny constitutional rights to law abiding citizens, for if we outlawed all guns here, do you think the criminals would bring them in also?
I didn't say outlaw all guns, just bring them down to a rational level. How do you think other countries have far fewer homicides with far fewer guns?
 

Revmitchell

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I didn't say outlaw all guns, just bring them down to a rational level. How do you think other countries have far fewer homicides with far fewer guns?

How do you propose that taking guns away from law abiding citizens who handle then properly and safely and legally promotes fewer homicides?
 

David Kent

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Do you know, we’ve only ever had three mass shootings in our entire history as a nation? And only one of those was in a school! I mean, compared to you we’ve been around for ages!

Give us a break. A mass shooting is when 4 or more are killed and you had over 100 this year
 

Yeshua1

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I didn't say outlaw all guns, just bring them down to a rational level. How do you think other countries have far fewer homicides with far fewer guns?
How can you legally take guns away from law abiding citizens though?
And Europe has really strict gun laws, how did that help them in paris shooting, or when terrorists decide to use rented trucks to mow people down?
 

FollowTheWay

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Give us a break. A mass shooting is when 4 or more are killed and you had over 100 this year
I think you must have quoted this out of context. All m,y posts here say that America has too many homicides because we have too many guns.
 
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