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Guns you own?

Alcott

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C4K said:
Are you telling me that no gun owning believer has suffered from a violent crime?

If I said that, name the post #.


You almost make it sound like the only godly response to violence is to have an armoury and lock and load. I just can't see that from Scripture.

I'm not looking it up (on short time right now), but it's in Luke; "And if you have no sword, it shall profit you to sell your garment and buy one." [Jesus]
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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Alcott said:
I'm not looking it up (on short time right now), but it's in Luke; "And if you have no sword, it shall profit you to sell your garment and buy one." [Jesus]

Fair point - you have given me food for thought.
 
Ed Edwards said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...2260.html?wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter


Headline:
Knives, Not Guns, Have Been Weapon of Choice
in Campus Crimes, Study Finds

Text: ...
the most commonly used weapon in more
than 558,000 campus-related crimes over
the five-year span (2000-2004) was a knife -- not counting
fists and feet, which accounted for most of the incidents.
...
Almost 11,000 incidents included a blade,
and more than 3,400 included a firearm.
...

Looks like 3 cases with knives for every
1 case with a firearm

Looks like 40 cases of no weapons for
ever case with a weapon.

Ed notes that when he went to University
on starting week there was an armed guard
in the book store supervising the crimes
being committed by the University against
their students. Books cost an average of
$12 each back then (once I bought a book
for $40 /two 3-hour classes/ and liked
to have fainted. I gave my children lots
of money and didn't ask what books cost
/my 25-year old still lacks 9-12 hours or maybe
42 hours unless only 6 -- that is what he
said, approximately/. University books are
cheaper than firearms.

(said for humor's sake not for validity's sake)
I fulfill my AMERICAN right to BEAR ARMS by having
the stuffed upper part of a bear over
my mantle: includes the gunshot head and the
BEAR ARMS. As can be seen by the unfixable
gunshot pattern - I obviously pulled the trigger
while I was fainting :(

Lol. I have a knife collection too! :eek:
 
hillclimber1 said:
It sure is. I'm wanting a long range, high velocity rifle. Something that I could maybe shoot with reasonable accuracy out to 6-7 hundred yds, maybe even a thousand.
Maybe a 300 Win Mag.....suggestions?

For plinking maybe something smaller?

I have a Winchester 7mm mag that I would love to sell you. It kicks like a mule... lol.
No, really, I don't want to sell any of my guns... or knives for that matter. :)
 
Sopranette said:
I meant PS 104_33's post, not scripture.

I've never pulled a gun on anyone, and I pray I never get into a situation where I would have to. There is no joy in hurting or killing anyone, but it's better him than me. I've never met anyone who was trigger happy, in fact, owning a gun makes you more aware of the damage you can inflict. Mostly I just fire the shotgun to keep packs of wild dogs out of our yard (no, I've never killed one, the bang alone is enough to scare them off.) I use the .22 to hunt rabbits.
(Okay, cue the banjoes!)

love,

Sopranette

There was a woman mauled to death near Ada Oklahoma recently. About three men tried to get the dogs off her and could not. It was not until one ran home and retrieved a gun, shot and killed one, that the others ran off.
 

Nonsequitur

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Originally Posted by hillclimber1
It sure is. I'm wanting a long range, high velocity rifle. Something that I could maybe shoot with reasonable accuracy out to 6-7 hundred yds, maybe even a thousand.
Maybe a 300 Win Mag.....suggestions?

For plinking maybe something smaller?


For hunting? .270 with proper handloads. .300 Win. Mag, 700mmMag, .338 Lapua are all good for that range.

For target? .270, .30-06, .308 (.30-06 and .308 are close ballistically) M1 Garands are still used at Camp Perry for 1000-1200 yds shoots. I prefer bolt action for better performance.
Nonsequitur
 

hillclimber1

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Nonsequitur said:
Originally Posted by hillclimber1
It sure is. I'm wanting a long range, high velocity rifle. Something that I could maybe shoot with reasonable accuracy out to 6-7 hundred yds, maybe even a thousand.
Maybe a 300 Win Mag.....suggestions?

For plinking maybe something smaller?


For hunting? .270 with proper handloads. .300 Win. Mag, 700mmMag, .338 Lapua are all good for that range.

For target? .270, .30-06, .308 (.30-06 and .308 are close ballistically) M1 Garands are still used at Camp Perry for 1000-1200 yds shoots. I prefer bolt action for better performance.
Nonsequitur

Changed my mind after shooting a 300 win mag today. Too much kick. see pm reply Ns.
 

David Lamb

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It might help folk not in the UK to understand the position regarding defence of one's home, if I say that by far the majority of household burglaries here are committed by unarmed criminals. The latest figures I could find (for 2005/06) say that of a total of 300,555 burglaries, only 2,162 were committed by people carrying any sort of weapon, or to use the legal jargon, "aggravated burglary". That is a mere 0.72 per cent. So if every burgled householder that year had actged as judge, jury and executioner by "shooting the burglar between the eyes", 298,393 unarmed people would have been shot dead.
 

Dagwood

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hillclimber1 said:
It sure is. I'm wanting a long range, high velocity rifle. Something that I could maybe shoot with reasonable accuracy out to 6-7 hundred yds, maybe even a thousand.
Maybe a 300 Win Mag.....suggestions?

For plinking maybe something smaller?

Maybe a 7mm Mag. or something like a 25-06 will do nicely if you don't want a magnum. :thumbs:
 

poncho

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Sako TRG-41 in .338 Lapua

The TRG-41 is chambered in the outstanding high power .338 Lapua, which effectively extends the range of the rifle out beyond 1100 meters. (In the right hands, the range can approach a mile)
sako_trg42.jpg
 
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poncho

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An old Mosin Nagant captured and reworked by the Fins (heavier barrel, smoother trigger) with a good scope will give respectable groups out to six or seven hundred yards and only costs a tiny fraction of the Sako TRG's. A National Match M14 ($$$) will do the same as will a FAL or L1A1 when set up and used properly. Even an old worn out Lee Enfield will "keep their heads down" at that range. :smilewinkgrin:

I have a Mosin Nagant Model 38 carbine in 7.62 x 54r (75 dollars) that I have accurized in the old school Russian manner...free floating the barrel and magazine well and bedding with oily strips of cloth and paper that'll shoot 1 MOA with handloads all day long, with the original iron sights. Still working on mounting a scope to it using a Weaver Number One scope mount (40 dollars) like I have on both my Savages. Come to think of it I've been meaning to get around to making the trigger adjustable...yes, you can make a MN standard issue trigger adjustable for pre travel and over travel with a little time, a chunk of steel, a stove bolt four nylocks and some silver solder! Smoothing and decreasing the trigger pull itself consists of nothing more than (gently) removing the mill marks with a fine file and a bit of sandpaper. Not a bad deal for a good solid performing "long range" carbine that cost less than 200 bucks (minus the scope) huh?

Here's some info on building some fine shooters from Mosins and Mausers.
 
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