Those dates can't be confirmed. We don't know the exact year Christ was crucified.
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Those dates can't be confirmed. We don't know the exact year Christ was crucified.
It will come to you when you're on the porch peeling an apple, or something like that.
Read the 2 different interpretations a few times and give it some thought for a few days.
It will sink in, go sit on the porch and peel an apple, that's when stuff happens, lol.
37818
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We know accurately the phases of the Moon.
And God's given word is inerrant.
Really?
We know accurately the phases of the Moon.
And God's given word is inerrant.
But yet we don't the exact date of our Saviors birth and death.
Go figure! Only one explanation, God didn't intend for us to know in one way or another.
As long as there are 2 scholars left in the world that will be refuted by one.
37818
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His crucifixion date Julian 30 AD, Thursday April 6, Nisan 15.
Newton, Julian 33 AD, Friday April 3, Nisan 14.
The date for His birth we can't be sure.
His crucifixion date Julian 30 AD, Thursday April 6, Nisan 15.
Newton, Julian 33 AD, Friday April 3, Nisan 14.
37818
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The proposed Wednesday Julian date 30 AD April 5, Nisan 14.
Everyone agrees Christ was crucified on preparation day, but the exact date of that day is unknown.
The problem is the High Day that week, how did that work in harmony with the Gospels?
That's why we have a possible Wed., Thur., or Fri.
You have Christ crucified on the 15th of Nisan, that is a High Sabbath Day and will be refuted instantly.
37818
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All crucifixion dates cannot be correct. Except one.
Worst case, there cannot be any possible date.
1. We have the 27 book New Testament as infallible evidence.
2. As believers we have the Spirit of Christ.
Romans 8:9. Romans 8:16.
3. I am of the persuasion the actual crucifixion date is knowable.
Worst case, there cannot be any possible date.
1. We have the 27 book New Testament as infallible evidence.
2. As believers we have the Spirit of Christ.
Romans 8:9. Romans 8:16.
3. I am of the persuasion the actual crucifixion date is knowable.
When you figure it out let me know so I can contact all the scholars in the world with the evidence.
37818
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The day before His crucifixion is Nisan 14th.
Begins Tuesday evening at sunset.
Wednesday starts at midnight.
Nisan 15th begins at Wednesday sunset.
Mark 14:17.
The Day of Preparation begins Thursday at sunset.
Friday begins at midnight.
Friday is a whole day.
Friday at sunset is the Sabbath.
At midnight is Saturday.
Saturday is a whole day.
Sabbath ends at Saturday at sunset.
Sunday begins at midnight.
The third day is Sunday morning.
This is going nowhere. The 14th of Nisan is preparation day for the High Day Sabbath.
John says in 19:14 it was the preparation of the Passover, this is when Christ was being examined by Pilate during the trial.
So we can't agree on anything.
Mark 14:12 is toward the first day of unleavened when the Lamb was killed which was on the 14th Ex 12:6 between the two evenings. They began putting leaven out of their dwelling place on that day, a day of preparation for the feast on the evening of the 15th. Mark 14:17 is the evening of the 14th with Jesus dying after the darkness that covered the land from 6th hour to the ninth hour and before the darkness of the evening of the 15th the day of the feast.
Ex 12:9 NASB95 ‘[fn]You shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month, then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel is to kill it [fn]at twilight. THAT LAST FN = Literally: between the two evenings
@37818 is using modern calculations (the modern Jewish Calendar) to determine when the year would have started. From there he goes off the date Passover would have fallen, ignoring differences between Jewish sects.
That is why you two will not agree. He assumes many things that most do not.
We cannot know (definitively) the exact date (our calendar) the Ritual Year started as calculations were not binding (testimony was binding).
We do know the Temple day (dawn to dawn), but since no passage dictates dawn to dawn or dusk to dusk this can lead to disagreements.
I have found it is best to leave those, like @37818 , alone with their ideas. He did a lot of work based on several flawed assumptions, so he is not going to be open to facts as these will not provide an exact date. For some reason this is important to him
Think of the three wise men. We know that there were three gifts mentioned, not three men. BUT if somebody was so bound by the idea of three wise men it may be best to simply let them alone.
Not worth trying to find agreement as the topic does not matter at all. It matters only if one is discussing history and facts, but then we cannot definitively provide an answer.
Yea, we agreed to disagree. But I give 37818 credit for persistence.
He'll wear you out in the long run. I don't have that much patience.
I like his strategy.
It is a case of ignoring history to hold a definitive view from one interpretation. But in the end it does not matter (from a theological point of view).
From a historical view it matters, even though it cannot be definitively known.
I like history. So when I read the biblical account I try to visualize what is being described (the Disciples describing the practices of both Jewish sects instead of giving a theological view of which one was correct).
That's a good way to look at it, can't go wrong with that!
I'm the inquisitive type I want to know all I can know, and then a little more.
But those days seem to be in the past now.
Can't go at it the way I used to. Don't get old Jon, you won't like it.