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But does it not have to speak to all of Scripture, if you are going to use it as a text to say all prophecy has ceased? Otherwise, the text again seems to only point to prophecy in Revelation. The prophecy of Revelation should not be added to...

 

Note what I edited in in my last post:

I mean prophecy in Revelation as foretelling prophecy, not forthtelling prophecy. In Charismatic circles, foretelling prophecy is the ruling brand, and I think Rev. 22 forbids that.

 

Ok thanks. Then in your understanding, foretelling prophecy has ceased, but forthtelling prophecy is still happening?

 

It depends on how you define forthtelling prophecy. Charismatics often will give revelation when they do forthtelling prophecy, in the sense of specific information from God. If by forthtelling prophecy you mean what the Charismatics do, I see that almost invariably (in what I've seen and heard) as adding revelation.

If you see forthtelling prophecy as simply telling and warning others what God has revealed in His Word (a defintion that John R. Rice used), then I'm for it.

 

Thanks John, you have helped confirm in my mind the whole understanding of prophecy and whether it has ceased or not is a muddled mess and is not as cut and dry and some would have you to believe.

 

You're welcome.

The Charismatics changed the whole dialogue about prophecy that existed until the 1960s. Even the original Pentecostals didn't go nearly as far as the Charismatics do in this respect.

 

Tad, here's a scripture verse to chew on:
I Corinthians 13:8

All of these are spiritual gifts, and Paul clearly is saying they will end at some point (when that which is perfect is come).

We may disagree on when that end is, and what the "perfect" is and when it will come.

I believe the case can be made for the "perfect" being the closing of the canon.

 

What in that context would lead you to believe that the perfect being the closing of the canon? That seems like a stretch.

 

The Apostles and they alone were promised by Jesus to be guided into ALL TRUTH

They were with signs and wonders confirming their word 2 cor12:12.

They were given all we need as pertains to life and Godliness.

This faith was "once for all time "delivered to the saints.

The apostle john would write,

he identifies that those who are of God hear the apostolic word, those who do not are in error. The us is the apostles....

Jesus ordained them for this purpose, and promised to bring all things to their remembrance,
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, [B]and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.[/B]

 

Thanks for the verses Icono, I will take some time to work through these. I appreciate it.

 

actually, the NT prophets function SAME way as the OT ones did, as they inspired by god to give forth words from god into the situation, check Acts where the word says the Spirit spoke regarding paul/Barnabus being set apart, that there would be a coming famine etc///

The prophesy in the local church was the Spirit encouraging/ministering /exhortingamong the saints, but that was NOT as NT prophets, as there HAD to be guidelines to discern that which was the Spirit speaking thru someone, and their own flesh/mind!

NO NT prophets today in sense of revelation coming from God, and no more need to jave local prophesy for the church, as we have the full scriptures complete to us, those are the revelation of God for today!

 

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Prophecy edifies, exhorts and comforts; helps us build up or strengthen; and should lead us to the Word of God. It is the ministry of the Holy Spirit to convict of sin, of righteousness, and of judgement.

It is divinely inspired..a supernatural proclamation in a known language. It is not of intellect..it is the manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

Prophecy is forthtelling!!

 

Prophecy is still here...and it does not add or take away from the Word of God!

 

Are you a prophet?

 

NO! Don't confuse the gift of prophecy with the office of the prophet.

 

Do you have the gift of prophecy?

 

Yes I am, and as a demonstration of my power, I predict in post #38 you will ask someone if they have the gift of prophecy.

 

Yes I do, I predict this time next week, you will be a resident of Pennsylvania. In addition to prophecy, I am an administrator, encourager, teacher, pastor, deacon, bishop and pot luck organizer. I also sing and dance. Oh, I almost forgot. My most prominant fruit of the Spirit is being humble.