HCSB Right or Wrong here?

Compare the following:

Mr. Brown singled out the student that was the trouble causer.

Mr. Brown sent the trouble causer to the principle’s office, having separated him from the rest of the class.

The HCSB misses much of the meaning and emphasis that is in the Greek text. Paul was NOT just “singled out for God's good news;” he was set apart for the gospel of God. And notice that Paul did not write that Paul was separated “from” something, but separated “for” the gospel of God—an unusual concept for English readers that deserves much thought and contemplation.

The words “singled out” do not express the concept of complete and total separation that is expressed in both the Greek text and the correct English translation of “set apart.” Furthermore, many scholars of the Epistle to the Romans believe that Paul is using a play on words here. In his former life as Saul, he was a Pharisee, a word commonly believed to be derived from the word paras meaning “separated one.” Therefore, according to this view, Paul is writing that he is now a true Pharisee—a man of God who is not merely separated from ceremonial uncleanness, but consecrated unto the gospel of God.

And although the word “gospel” comes down to us from the words “good spell,” the word “gospel” is not synonymous with the words “good news.”

For a better understanding of synonyms in the English language, see the discussion on synonymy on pp. 5a - 25a in Webster’s New Dictionary of Synonyms, G. & C. Merriam Company, Publishers, 1973.

 

Perhaps Phillip is having hallucinations—I didn’t use this example or say anything at all about these words!

 

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Hey someone reads my posts

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Perhaps Phillip failed to notice that NONE of the translations he has quoted agree with the very poor translation found in the HCSB. Indeed, they ALL agree that that the concept in the Greek language is that of separation, that is, except for the CEV, a paraphrastic version originally intended for children (it was translated at a fourth grade reading level). And this translation for elementary school children, although it deletes the concept of being “separated unto” (a concept that is foreign to young children), it substitutes a concept very different from the HCSB concept of “singled out.” In other words, Phillip has not found a single translation that agrees with the HCSB, but has shown us absolute proof that Bible translators agree that the concept expressed in the Greek New Testament is best expressed in English using the words “set apart” or “separated” rather than “singled out” which does not necessary connote separation but conveys instead very much the same thought as “point out.” The HCSB may be good enough for you, but it is not good enough for me and my family.

 

Obviously you do not understand Paul and you have missed his point of being separated unto the gospel.

 

It is expressly clear from the data that you yourself posted that just about everyone but you thinks so.

 

Phillip wrote,

Phillip wrote in another thread,

Phillip, Paul’s Epistle to the Romans in NOT one of the four gospels nor is it one of the books in the Old Testament. It is found in the New Testament between Acts and 1 Corinthians, even in the HCSB.

The Epistle to the Romans has been my primary field of study for more than 25 years.

Upon what do you base this ridiculously inaccurate statement?

Phillip, had you actually read my posts you would know that is EXACTLY what I have been asserting. And if you will read your posts, you will see that you have been defending the translation in the HCSB which uses instead the words “singled out.” (Phillip, let me know when you are feeling better ).

Actually, I have a great deal of respect for the SBC, their theology, their politics, their seminary professors, and MANY of their publications. It just so happens that the HCSB is a most unfortunate mistake on their part.

My dear brother Phillip, this post is addressed specifically you—you other guys out there, don’t you dare peek!

My dear brother Phillip, I am not the one who is challenging the judgment of virtually every Bible translator in the Milky Way galaxy. If you would simply accept the fact that I am right and learn from me instead of butting heads with me as though you were my two-year-old grandson, we wouldn’t have these clashes and you could get a free education.

 

My Dear Bro CBTS,
I am still keeping you in my prayers. Have you given any thought to church planting in the inner city.
thought for the day: A string will stay straight if you pull it instead of push it.

 

Thank you for keeping me in your prayers. Yes, I have given much thought (and prayer) to church planting in the inner city or a beach community where there are many homeless people, drug addicts, alcoholics, college students, servicemen, and others in perilous need. That is my heart’s desire, but I have as yet not received a clear indication from God that He wants me to do that at this point in my life. When I did that in the past, the call of God was expressly clear and God put everything together while I watched in amazement.

How about you, Bill? Would you care to join me in planting such a church? Is there any chance that God would have you to do so?

How about the rest of you out there? I have the money (a very large equity in my home); all I need is the clear call of God, prayer support, some strong arms and backs, and a few fellow preachers and teachers of the word of God.

 

Please do not bear false witness.

 

Not true in the slightest. Regardless, 2 applies because "tongues" does not mean languages any longer, and the use of a word that people do not understand allows cults to fill the word with false doctrine: "Languages means languages. Tongues means babbling non-language that comes from the flesh."

Using "tongues" for language might not have been dishonest and damnable hundreds of years ago, but using it in a modern translation is very serious.