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Hebrews 10:14

Van

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Hebrews 10:14 NASB
For by one offering he has perfected for all time those who are made holy.


This verse is frequently poorly translated, as in the case above by the NASB.

What is the "one offering?" The sacrifice of Christ's life on the cross.

What does it mean to be Perfected? To be made perfect, complete, blameless and holy, able to be united with the holiness of God and His perfected chosen ones. Able to enter heaven, the abode of God.

For all time simply refers to the fact, once a person has been perfected, that perfect state is for eternity, never to be lost or diminished.

"Those who are made holy" misses the action of the verb, which is to be set apart in Christ, thus undergoing the washing of regeneration, which results in perfect righteousness.

Unity, God in Christ, Christ in Us, Us in Christ.
 

kyredneck

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The Sermon On The Mount, which is basically an exposition of the law, given by the Author of the law, addressed to the recipients of the law, showing the spirituality of the law, is summed up here:

Matthew Chapter 5

48

Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

....and thank God for this:


Hebrews 10:14 NASB
For by one offering he has perfected for all time those who are made holy.
 
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Van

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On and on folks, posters make claims without any understanding of the scripture cited!

Does this verse say will be made perfect passively, or that we are to strive to be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect?

Strive to be perfect! Other verses teach that we are passively made perfect, but not this one! (Matthew 5:48)
 

Van

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Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

The latter.

And thank God for this: Hebrews 10:14 NASB
For by one offering he has perfected for all time those who are made holy.
"Those who are made holy" misses the action of the verb, which is to be set apart in Christ, thus undergoing the washing of regeneration, which results in perfect righteousness.

Unity, God in Christ, Christ in Us, Us in Christ.
 

kyredneck

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"Those who are made holy" misses the action of the verb, which is to be set apart in Christ, thus undergoing the washing of regeneration, which results in perfect righteousness.

Unity, God in Christ, Christ in Us, Us in Christ.

K.

...and thank God for this:

Hebrews 10:14 NASB
For by one offering he has perfected for all time those who are made holy.
 

Van

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For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who have been set apart in Christ.
 

canadyjd

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"Those who are made holy" misses the action of the verb, which is to be set apart in Christ, thus undergoing the washing of regeneration, which results in perfect righteousness.

Unity, God in Christ, Christ in Us, Us in Christ.
On and on and on folks.

So, in summery, @Van doesn’t like the passive verb “made holy”, so he dismisses scholars with decades of diligent devotion to understanding the biblical languages in favor of forcing the text to conform to his uneducated bias.

The never ending attempt to slay the doctrines of grace with bad theology is alive and well.

Please prepare for name calling, victimhood, “taint so”, “duh” and other “scholarly” rebukes from our OP

Peace to you
 

kyredneck

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For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who have been set apart in Christ made saints.

[add]

Better?/or:

For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified.


BibleHub
 
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Van

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On and on and on folks.

So, in summery, @Van doesn’t like the passive verb “made holy”, so he dismisses scholars with decades of diligent devotion to understanding the biblical languages in favor of forcing the text to conform to his uneducated bias.

The never ending attempt to slay the doctrines of grace with bad theology is alive and well.

Please prepare for name calling, victimhood, “taint so”, “duh” and other “scholarly” rebukes from our OP

Peace to you
Why would anyone post such easily shown to be false claims? I have no idea.

Is the poster claim the verb in Matthew 5:48 is passive? Is the poster attempting to pull the old switcheroo and claim I was referring to Hebrews 10:14? Lord knows.

What is for certain is we have yet another blatant attempt to obfuscate truth.

The verb in Matthew 5:48 (G1510) is in the "future middle indicative" form. We act to strive to be perfect as our Father is perfect.
 
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Van

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For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who have been set apart in Christ made saints.

[add]

Better?/or:

For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified.


BibleHub
On and on, nonsense posted upon nonsense. What does it mean to be perfected? To be made holy so that the person can be in unity with God!!

The above nonsense is "by one offering He has "made holy" for all time those who have been made holy." Gibberish. He has made holy those set apart in Christ. Truth.
 

kyredneck

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Hebrews Chapter 10 ASV

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then hath he said, Lo, I am come to do thy will. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10​

By which will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11​

And every priest indeed standeth day by day ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, the which can never take away sins:

12​

but he, when he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13​

henceforth expecting till his enemies be made the footstool of his feet.

14​

For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
 

kyredneck

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On and on, nonsense posted upon nonsense. What does it mean to be perfected? To be made holy so that the person can be in unity with God!!

The above nonsense is "by one offering He has "made holy" for all time those who have been made holy." Gibberish. He has made holy those set apart in Christ. Truth.

BibleHub
 

Van

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The never-ending dance of the false teachers is upon us again.

He has perfected (made holy) those set apart in Christ.

Everyone set apart in Christ has been made holy forever by the blood of the Lamb.

There is no need for any additional sacrifice! But we have the ministry of reconciliation where we invite the lost to be reconciled to God through belief in the truth.
 

Van

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Van's a Weeble. He wobbles but he won't fall down.
Yet another petty personal attack, off topic and vile.
The never-ending dance of the false teachers is upon us again.

He has perfected (made holy) those set apart in Christ.

Everyone set apart in Christ has been made holy forever by the blood of the Lamb.
There is no need for any additional sacrifice! But we have the ministry of reconciliation where we invite the lost to be reconciled to God through belief in the truth and being set apart within Christ.
 

Marooncat79

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On and on and on folks.

So, in summery, @Van doesn’t like the passive verb “made holy”, so he dismisses scholars with decades of diligent devotion to understanding the biblical languages in favor of forcing the text to conform to his uneducated bias.

The never ending attempt to slay the doctrines of grace with bad theology is alive and well.

Please prepare for name calling, victimhood, “taint so”, “duh” and other “scholarly” rebukes from our OP

Peace to you
He does it all of the time.
 

Van

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Yes all of those elected before the world was, will be saved in time and secured by God. He is not willing that any of the elect perish.
If we were individually elected before the world was, as foreseen individuals, how is it that once we had not been chosen as a people and once had not received mercy.

If we had been chosen individually before our creation, then we would have always been a people chosen for God's own possession, and we would have always received mercy. But scripture says, no, once we were not a people and once we had not received mercy. See 1 Peter 2:9-10.

Therefore your assertion is an unbiblical claim as I see it.

And for another scriptural preclusion of your doctrine, consider that no charge can be brought against God's elect, Romans 8:33? If we were already elected individually for salvation before our individual creation, then we would never have been children of wrath, Ephesians 2:3.

I could go on, but in more than 10 years, no Calvinist has ever publicly admitted his or her doctrines were in error.

He has made holy (perfected) those set apart into Christ.
 
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