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Hell: Which View is The Bible One?

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AndyMartin said:
Not in the Bible anywhere. Nor do the Hebrew and Greek words used for the punishment of the wicked, ever support "annihilation", at any time. This is all pure conjecture and wishful thinking!
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You are the one who used the term "annihilation", scripture doesn't.

Scripture uses the term, "destroyed".

Destruction is NOT a punishment.
Destruction IS the consequence of rejecting God.

The "punishment" FOR rejecting God is complete and forever separation from God.

So what is "your" message? "your" point?

IS IT.....there is NO SUCH THING as total and complete destruction of those who reject God?
 
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Happy said:
You are the one who used the term "annihilation", scripture doesn't.

Scripture uses the term, "destroyed".

Destruction is NOT a punishment.
Destruction IS the consequence of rejecting God.

The "punishment" FOR rejecting God is complete and forever separation from God.

So what is "your" message? "your" point?

IS IT.....there is NO SUCH THING as total and complete destruction of those who reject God?
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You forget that "destruction" is not the only word used in the Bible to describe the eternal fate of the unsaved wicked. Neither does it ever have the meaning "to destroy utterly so as to wipe out of existence". I have already shown this for those who wish to hear. Jesus Himself says that there will be "wailing and gnashing of teeth, and torments", for those who would end up in "γηννα", hardly anything but "conscious eternal suffering".

I rest my case now as I have nothing further to add. May the Lord grant us all wisdom and understanding.
 
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AndyMartin said:
You forget that "destruction" is not the only word used in the Bible to describe the eternal fate of the unsaved wicked. Neither does it ever have the meaning "to destroy utterly so as to wipe out of existence". I have already shown this for those who wish to hear. Jesus Himself says that there will be "wailing and gnashing of teeth, and torments", for those who would end up in "γηννα", hardly anything but "conscious eternal suffering".

I rest my case now as I have nothing further to add. May the Lord grant us all wisdom and understanding.
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No, I did not forget "destruction" is not the only word used in the Bible.

What are you saying "ynvva" means, because my Bible is in English.
So, what Scripture (Book, Chapter and Verse) would, what you are talking about (ynvva) be found paralleled in an English script Bible?
 
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At Acts 3:23 we see that the souls of those who reject the words of Jesus will be "utterly destroyed." Do you suppose those who were "utterly destroyed" in the OT were left alive to suffer, or were they exterminated, man, women and child?
 
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Van said:
At Acts 3:23 we see that the souls of those who reject the words of Jesus will be "utterly destroyed."
Agree ~

Souls utterly destroyed ~
Body's NEVER changed from a dead pile of dust to a glorious body ~
Spirits NEVER born again from "natural" to "spiritual", from a natural seed, to a birth from Gods seed ~


Do you suppose those who were "utterly destroyed" in the OT were left alive to suffer, or were they exterminated, man, women and child?
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Good question posed to AndyMartin.
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