Here Are The States Where Obamacare Subsidies Could Disappear

[Crabtownboy]

Real people would be hurt and possibly die if the SC rules against Obamacare.

Obamacare allowed Karen Hines, a three-time breast cancer survivor, to get health insurance she was denied
before because of her medical history. It also gave her the financial help she needed to buy it. But if those subsidies disappear
after a Supreme Court ruling in June, Hines is mostly worried about what will happen to her ailing mother.

Hines spends her days caring for her 84-year-old mother, who suffered a stroke in 2010 and has dementia, in their Virginia Beach
home. Hines, 59, is able to do so because she has her own health care needs covered, but if she lost the subsidies she’d have to
return to full-time work that provides health benefits. That would mean her mother would have to spend more time away at elder care and less time at home with her daughter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/03/courting-disaster-breast-cancer_n_6784820.html

 

[PreachTony]

Yes, that is what the Democrats did to the country. They wrote a law by themselves without any input from the loyal opposition that called for state exchanges and a tax increase. When the states failed to set up the exchanges, the Democrats set up a federal exchange illegally, Preacher.

So why did the Democrats do all this?

"Loyal opposition," really? You don't hear that much in the States...

Defined by Merriam-Webster as "a minority party especially in a legislative body whose opposition to the party in power is constructive, responsible, and bounded by loyalty to fundamental interests and principles <a well-fortified minority will tend to improve … legislative debate and can become a genuine loyal opposition — American State Legislatures>; specifically : the minority party in the British parliament —often used in the phrase His Majesty's loyal opposition"

More often than not you can hear that term applied to dictatorial governments or monarchies that maintain the illusion of democratic (small d) choice for their citizens. I wouldn't call the GOP a "loyal opposition" to the Democrats as currently helmed by Obama. In fact, the term "loyal opposition" doesn't often appear in the American political vernacular.

 

[InTheLight]

Real people would be hurt and possibly die if the SC rules against Obamacare.

...but if she lost the subsidies she’d have to
return to full-time work that provides health benefits. That would mean her mother would have to spend more time away at elder care and less time at home with her daughter.

Translation: If the badly worded law by the constitutional scholar Obama and the Democratic Congress gets struck down as being unconstitutional, someone might have to stop taking money from the rest of us, work more hours to support herself and her mother.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Translation: If the badly worded law by the constitutional scholar Obama and the Democratic Congress gets struck down as being unconstitutional, someone might have to stop taking money from the rest of us, work more hours to support herself and her mother.

But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
Luke 10:29

 

[InTheLight]

But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
Luke 10:29

Pretty sure it wasn't the government working through neighbors that Jesus was alluding to.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Pretty sure it
wasn't the government working through neighbors
that Jesus was alluding to.

Nonsense argument as Christ did not say
that the government could not work through
neighbors.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Real people will be left to die if the Obamacare is overturned.

Over the last eight years, Dave Price has beaten skin cancer, struggled with the transition into a new career in his 50s and eaten away at the savings he worked decades to build. What happens next is in the hands of the nine justices on the Supreme Court.

Price, 59, is covered by a health insurance plan he bought from an Obamacare exchange. Under the Affordable Care Act, he couldn’t be turned down because of his pre-existing condition. His family income of less than $30,000 a year means he and his wife, who live in Chicago, qualify for tax credits that make the coverage affordable. If the Supreme Court invalidates those subsidies in Illinois and more than 30 other states, Price faces a decision: tap even deeper into his retirement fund to pay for health insurance, or leave the cancer unchecked. It’s not much of a choice, he said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/03/courting-disaster-skin-cancer_n_6784728.html

 

[Don]

Should the Supreme Court rule in favor of law, or Obamacare ?

THIS is the only question that CTB needs to answer right now.

 

[Crabtownboy]

THIS is the only question that CTB needs to answer right now.

That is not what this thread is about. Please read the OP and stay on the subject.

 

[Don]

That is not what this thread is about. Please read the OP and stay on the subject.

It's absolutely on topic. The premise throughout this thread has been "here's the harm if the Supreme Court rules against the ACA."

So ultimately the question is exactly as was presented: Should the Supreme Court rule in favor of the law, or in favor of the ACA?

 

[ShagNappy]

Only a bunch of Baptists could be mad as hornets over poor people getting insurance that effectively doesn't cost the Baptist a noticeable amount of money coming from their pockets. Good thing God told us to store up riches that could... oh crap!

 

[Revmitchell]

Only a bunch of Baptists could be mad as hornets over poor people getting insurance that effectively doesn't cost the Baptist a noticeable amount of money coming from their pockets. Good thing God told us to store up riches that could... oh crap!

There is no truth to anything in this post.

 

[ShagNappy]

there is no truth to anything in this post.

*feeds through translator*

when i don't have anything intelligent or useful as a rebuttal I just post stupid stuff.

 

[Revmitchell]

*feeds through translator*

Oh you must mean something like this:

Only a bunch of Baptists could be mad as hornets over poor people getting insurance that effectively doesn't cost the Baptist a noticeable amount of money coming from their pockets. Good thing God told us to store up riches that could... oh crap!

 

[ShagNappy]

Oh you must mean something like this:

You are a self fulfilling prophecy of stupid! :applause: :thumbs:

 

[Revmitchell]

You are a self fulfilling prophecy of stupid! :applause: :thumbs:

Yes well..................

 

[Crabtownboy]

Only a bunch of Baptists could be mad as hornets over poor people getting insurance that effectively doesn't cost the Baptist a noticeable amount of money coming from their pockets. Good thing God told us to store up riches that could... oh crap!

Only a certain strip of Baptist, primarily those who call themselves Baptist but are Baptist only in name and not in theology. Many are really disciples of Paul and really like to ignore the teachings of Jesus about how we are to treat others.

If the SC rules Obamacare unconstitutional upward to 8 to 10 million people will be denies medical insurance. Cancers, diabetes, and other terrible disease will go untreated.

Those who hope Obamacare is ruled unconstitutional should volunteer to help at the free clinics that will have to reopen and see the suffering of people who are without insurance.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Only a bunch of Baptists could be mad as hornets over poor people getting insurance that effectively doesn't cost the Baptist a noticeable amount of money coming from their pockets. Good thing God told us to store up riches that could... oh crap!

Only you could gloss over the folks that did get hurt.

 

[Revmitchell]

Only you could gloss over the folks that did get hurt.

No no, crabby can too.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yeah, I forgot him.

Anyway, everyone's dreaming if they think the republicans got any nerve to fight this.

Still, Team Zero told the states to set up exchanges where subsidies could be calculated & requested, then said there would be no federal money for subsidies.

Is it any wonder only 37 states told him to go jump in a a lake ?