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supersoldier71
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So...a Catholic posts on the "Baptist Board" suggesting observance of an RCC tradition...and is shocked when no one sees it his way.
You can't make this stuff up.
You can't make this stuff up.
Fasting is not specific to the Catholic faith tradition. but is something that is relevant to all believers. If not now, when? What does your spiritual life consist of? Is it just believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and that's it?
Funny, but I have never heard of the 1st Baptist Church of Jerusalem. And I thought it all began by a man named John Smyth? Silly me!
The Baptist faith tradition is so far from the Apostles it isn't even funny. They believed in the authority of the Church where the faithful listened to what they said. This is reflected in the letters Paul wrote to the outlying churches (parishes) telling them where they were going wrong in regards to Christian practices. No "church" was allowed autonomy to decide things for themselves and the Scriptures prove this.
You are headed for a devil's hell if you do not repent and trust and treasure Jesus the Son of God ALONE for the forgiveness of your sin. You have been deceived and blinded. Awake oh sleeper, do not harden your heart!
What are the pagan practices? Saying the Lord's prayer perhaps? Receiving Holy Communion like Jesus and St' Paul tells us to do? Reading the Scriptures at Mass, including one from the OT, one Epistle from the NT and one of the four written gospels? Repenting when we sin? Praying for others? Taking a collection for the poor? Having but one wife or husband in Holy marriage? Pray, tell me, which one of those is a pagan practice?
You have left God's Holy Church to go to a church started by men and then listening to them give you their interpretation of things. An acquaintance of my wife's was going to a Baptist Church and they got a new pastor. Did the new pastor continue on with the same teachings as the old pastor? Nope, he changed some of the teachings and there was an uproar and this person along with others had to leave and go find a new church. That is what you are now involved in - chaos from beginning to end.
I trust Jesus Christ and His Church here on earth, they are one and the same. Hey, if you got a new pastor who came into your church and you did not agree with his interpretation of the Scriptures, what would you do?
Transubstantiation--Christ's literal body and blood in the elements in the "mass". That is pagan and of the occult. Christ died one time for the sins of mankind!!!
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,
Hebrews 10:10
And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
turn from your man-made religion and turn to the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ!
Unfortunately, you are denigrating the "spiritual life" of your detractors. You have some justification, give the repeated attacks you've encountered.
But it is indeed possible to have a "spiritual life" without subscribing to the Latin Rite's established discipline of Lent. And it is possible to profit from Lenten discipline, though IMO it should be crafted by the individual, not be prescribed by the clerics.
You see your detractors as, well, antinomians. They see you as a legalist (at best).
There will be no agreement here, but feel free to carry on.
But it is indeed possible to have a "spiritual life" without subscribing to the Latin Rite's established discipline of Lent. And it is possible to profit from Lenten discipline, though IMO it should be crafted by the individual, not be prescribed by the clerics.
You see your detractors as, well, antinomians. They see you as a legalist (at best).
There will be no agreement here, but feel free to carry on.
It is what the Apostles believed and what the Christian Church taught and just about all of Christendom believed for millennia. When the first great schism occurred between East and West, the Eastern churches kept to this belief. Only the supposed "reformers" rejected this - and that was some 1600 years down the road of faith.
The Western Church wanted to describe what happens and they came up with the word "transubstantiation", while the Eastern Church calls what happens "a mystery". But forget about what the Eastern or Western churches say, what does Jesus say? He is unequivocal - "This is my Body" and "This is my Blood". He said it, the Scriptures record it, and the Church teaches it - that is the end of the story.
And that is exactly what the Latin Rite teaches!
1 Cor 11 25:27 …25In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.…
1. There was wine in the cup, not grape juice.
2. It was unleavened bread, not crackers.
3. There is no limit on when this "communion" can or should be done.
4. Verse 27 tells us exactly what the Eucharist is i.e. the body and blood of the Lord - any other claim is blasphemy.
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The covenant is in His Blood--the Death of Christ--His Blood that has been poured out for our sins--the Blood that Has paid for our sins...not the blood that we Drink!
Leviticus 17
“‘I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people. For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life. Therefore I say to the Israelites, “None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner residing among you eat blood.”
Hebrews 9
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
And then came Jesus who taught us otherwise - "This is my Body" and "This is my Blood". You cannot get away from that truth no matter how much your new spiritual masters try to tell you.
You think you are literally eating the body and blood of Jesus Christ?
Amen to that! And then knowing He would be leaving this earth, He left us Himself - really true and really present. If that were not true, why the whole exercise of the Last Supper? He tells us exactly what He was doing, leaving us the great sacrament of His Body and His Blood - the viaticum of the ages! (Even Satanists know what this really is, they always want a consecrated Eucharist to use in their evil rituals).
Yes, I have faith that is what it becomes upon the consecration of the bread and wine. This is not some kind of theology that has come up recently, it has been around since the beginning of the Christian faith. How you can so easily dismiss this teaching is beyond me.
I dismiss it because it is evil and pagan. Trust The FINISHED Work of Christ ALONE!
Very well, you have your opinion. But tell me this, why the Last Supper in the first place? What exactly was all this "This is my Body...." etc. business then? Wouldn't that have been paganistic too? I didn't make up the words, Jesus said them and I only read them in the Bible. The whole thing was not the normal Passover Seder that's for sure, it was quite out of the ordinary. So really, what was Jesus's discourse all about then? I am really interested in your take on this.
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Then why did He instruct us to "do this (recreate His action) in memory of me"? What you say in relation to the Last Supper discourse makes no sense at all.
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