High priest as a witness

[HisWitness]

Are you jjump?

who ? who?

 

[Revmitchell]

who ? who?

I don't really care. Someone suggested you were. I just thought if you are it is good to see ya.

 

[HisWitness]

Not at all. You're incorrect yet again. Perhaps your ME leanings have led you astray? Yes, this is certain.

Christ was spoken of here, yet you wish to take that from Him and to whom it refers.

Many more have concluded it is Christ here spoken of.

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[HisWitness]

I don't really care. Someone suggested you were. I just thought if you are it is good to see ya.

don't know what jjump even means ?

 

[preacher4truth]

I revamped that post and said it was Christ there--now answer my question there.

So yes, it was Christ here. And you agree.

Now did they see this fulfilled in their time, since Moses said 'you' will listen to Him?

Answer the question. Did these contemporaries see this fulfilled in their time?

Yes or no?

 

[HisWitness]

So yes, it was Christ here. And you agree.

Now did they see this fulfilled in their time, since Moses said 'you' will listen to Him?

Answer the question. Did these contemporaries see this fulfilled in their time?

Yes or no?

well I did a little more study--and I have to say it was truly Joshua that Moses was talking about-

 

[preacher4truth]

well I did a little more study--and I have to say it was truly Joshua that Moses was talking about-

So you're still wavering. You're tossed to and fro.

Provide what and of whom you've studied with quotes. That or you're resting your evidence on subjectivity (you).

I'll await credible evidence otherwise.

 

[HisWitness]

So you're still wavering. You're tossed to and fro.

Provide what and of whom you've studied with quotes. That or you're resting your evidence on subjectivity (you).

I'll await credible evidence otherwise.

I have answered your question--I hold to Joshua being the prophet given to the you in that verse---now answer my questions too you ?

 

[Herald]

This thread is nothing more than an attempt to support the heresy of full preterism. G.K. Beale and D.A. Carson write accurately on the assertion that Jesus was telling the high priest he would "see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven":

Christology and eschatology continue to dominate. Jesus is the divine Son of Man, just as he is the divine Lord. Both concepts supplement and do not eradicate his messianic role. In conventional Jewish thinking being a messiah did not necessarily mean that one was anything more than a great human king or military general. Even "son of God" in some texts was merely a synonym for "messiah" (see now esp. 4Q246 from the more recently translated Dead Sea Scrolls). Jesus adds a great deal more to the picture, and he does so by taking two OT texts that he considers to have overtones of exaltation and divinity and associates them with the role of messiah. As we have seen previously (p. 89), it is hard to know how much of this linkage may have already been made in certain strands of pre-Christian Jewish expectation and how much was created by Jesus. One either score, however, there is enough chutzpah in Jesus' pronouncements to explain his condemnation and crucifixion by those unprepared to believe his claims (see Linton 1961).

What is more, Jesus will return again, this time not to be judged but to judge, and to avenge all the injustices of history and vanquish his enemies. The idea that his parousia is Christ's invisible coming in judgment on Jerusalem in AD 70 is even less convincing here than it was with Matt. 24:30, since he is seated at the right hand of the Father before he comes on the clouds of heaven (or perhaps we are meant to see Jesus sitting and moving at the same time, if he is pictured as coming in the divine "chariot" - akin to Ezekiel's vision of God in Ezek. 1 [see Evans 2001: 452]). He is not going into the presence of the Ancient of Days, as the Son of Man did in Dan. 7:13; rather, he is leaving God to return to earth. For Jesus to say, "from now on [ap' arti], you will see..." does not refer to one continuous vision from the time of his interrogation forward, but rather means simply "in the future" (Davies and Allison 1988-1997: 3:530-31). At the same time, the trial initiates decisive events of eschatological significance, and Jesus' exaltation will continue throughout the church age (Sabourin 1978:359).

(Commentary on the Old Testament Use of the New Testament, 2007, Baker Academic Press)

 

[preacher4truth]

I have answered your question--I hold to Joshua being the prophet given to the you in that verse---now answer my questions too you ?

I know, you have no evidence to provide and the passage I gave you perplexed you and stopped you in your tracks. Scripture has a way of doing this. :wavey:

 

[HisWitness]

I know, you have no evidence to provide and the passage I gave you perplexed you and stopped you in your tracks. Scripture has a way of doing this. :wavey:

you don't even consider the scriptures I put together for you and showed that those things were fulfilled in the days of the disciples--you neglect to even discuss them because you know that they are recorded and did happen--so you totally run the other way and shun them.:sleep::sleep:

 

[HisWitness]

I know, you have no evidence to provide and the passage I gave you perplexed you and stopped you in your tracks. Scripture has a way of doing this. :wavey:

in acts regarding the Deut 18-15 verse--it is saying that as God had said unto their fathers that he would raise a prophet up for them--likewise that God hath also raised a prophet up unto them in Christ's day(Christ himself)

a contrast is being made here just as God raised up a Prophet for them in their day--God also raised up Jesus for you in your day(notice jesus wasn't even referred to as a prophet in the acts text)