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How can anyone support Democrats

Reynolds

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The Christians who were born democrats and taught they would die as democrats
I was reared Democrat. That was before Democrats decided they wanted to support and champion every imaginable perversion.
 

Alcott

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The Christians who were born democrats and taught they would die as democrats

That may be I. Both parents were democrats, even though my mom's dad was a rarity for that time around here-- a storekeeper and a Republican. To get the picture of my dad, think of Archie Bunker as a Texas cotton farmer, and you have him. When he thought of Republicans, he raved on about the carpetbaggers and what he'd been told about them. I guess that's not all bad... he said his grandmother was a devout Baptist who never used profanity-- with one exception-- she never said "yankee" without the "damn" in front of it.
 

Salty

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... and what he'd been told about them. ...
an that is what all this amounts to!
People know ( or think the know) what they believe - they just dont know
WHY they believe it.

I have no doubt in my military mind that I too would have resented those Republican carpetbaggers.
But things change over time. And we need to be aware of said changes.
 

Reynolds

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an that is what all this amounts to!
People know ( or think the know) what they believe - they just dont know
WHY they believe it.

I have no doubt in my military mind that I too would have resented those Republican carpetbaggers.
But things change over time. And we need to be aware of said changes.
I am as southern and as Confederate as they come. These perverts today are nothing like the Old Southern Democrats. Bernie Sanders is trying to set up a litmus test that would disqualify any fundamental Christian from service
 

Reynolds

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That may be I. Both parents were democrats, even though my mom's dad was a rarity for that time around here-- a storekeeper and a Republican. To get the picture of my dad, think of Archie Bunker as a Texas cotton farmer, and you have him. When he thought of Republicans, he raved on about the carpetbaggers and what he'd been told about them. I guess that's not all bad... he said his grandmother was a devout Baptist who never used profanity-- with one exception-- she never said "yankee" without the "damn" in front of it.
Do people really not have enough smarts to realize that The Democratic Party is nothing like what it used to be?
 

Baptist Believer

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This man would have been the Democratic nominee had the DNC played fair.
Bernie Sanders's Religious Test for Christians in Public Office
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/529614/
Let's be clear about a couple of things:
(1) Bernie Sanders is violating separation of church and state by attempting to enact a religious test.
(2) Bernie Sanders is an independent who has caucused with the Democratic Party and tried to get the Democratic Party nomination, but failed.

How can Christians support this party?
Sanders is not a good representative of the historic Democratic Party's positions. However, that may be changing since his failed bid to win nomination.

In terms of church and state issues, the Democratic Party has been a more consistent voice for religious liberty through institutional separation of church and state than Republicans, although there are a number of exceptions on both sides.

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To avoid some of the inevitable backlash for posting this, I think I need to state that I am not a Democrat, nor have I ever voting in any consistent way for Democrats (only if the Republican candidate was incompetent or corrupt - which tends to happen in a modest amount of state and local elections). I have been a moderate Republican, although I have such a strong distaste for the Trump Party (aka, "Republican Party") at the moment, I do not consider myself a Republican either.
 

Baptist Believer

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Christians do not support a party platform of murdering babies.
That's quite simplistic and reductionistic.

Support for abortion is only part of the platform. There are other aspects to being pro-life than abortion and the current Republican platform has a number of issues in that regard. I liked George W.'s emphasis on compassionate conservatism, but that got swept away by Republican resistance and the major crisis that defined his presidency - 9/11.

The Christians I know who typically vote Democratic are not in favor of "murdering babies."
 

Reynolds

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That's quite simplistic and reductionistic.

Support for abortion is only part of the platform. There are other aspects to being pro-life than abortion and the current Republican platform has a number of issues in that regard. I liked George W.'s emphasis on compassionate conservatism, but that got swept away by Republican resistance and the major crisis that defined his presidency - 9/11.

The Christians I know who typically vote Democratic are not in favor of "murdering babies."
Well, murder of the innocent is a huge issue. I do not care What else you do, if you continually shed innocent blood, you are evil. All that was wrong with Hitler is he killed a few million innocent people. Other than that, he had some good stuff in his platform.
 

Reynolds

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Let's be clear about a couple of things:
(1) Bernie Sanders is violating separation of church and state by attempting to enact a religious test.
(2) Bernie Sanders is an independent who has caucused with the Democratic Party and tried to get the Democratic Party nomination, but failed.


Sanders is not a good representative of the historic Democratic Party's positions. However, that may be changing since his failed bid to win nomination.

In terms of church and state issues, the Democratic Party has been a more consistent voice for religious liberty through institutional separation of church and state than Republicans, although there are a number of exceptions on both sides.

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To avoid some of the inevitable backlash for posting this, I think I need to state that I am not a Democrat, nor have I ever voting in any consistent way for Democrats (only if the Republican candidate was incompetent or corrupt - which tends to happen in a modest amount of state and local elections). I have been a moderate Republican, although I have such a strong distaste for the Trump Party (aka, "Republican Party") at the moment, I do not consider myself a Republican either.
He is violating Article 6.
 

Yeshua1

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Well, murder of the innocent is a huge issue. I do not care What else you do, if you continually shed innocent blood, you are evil.
You realize that when someone votes as a Democrat, registers as a Democrat, or votes in a Democratic primary, they are not handed a baby to murder, right?

For a Party to take a position that there should be no restrictions on abortion is not the same thing are performing an abortion. Moreover, you are completely ignoring the diversity of opinion on the subject in the Democratic Party, including the significant pro-life faction of the Party.

You line of reasoning is similar to those persons who have condemned me for voting Republican because I allegedly support "letting children go hungry" through the reform of government assistance.

All that was wrong with Hitler is he killed a few million innocent people. Other than that, he had some good stuff in his platform.
More than a few million people - and he did have a few good things in his platform, including the rebuilding of infrastructure and the ban on the vivisection of animals.

Of course, when you resort to making comparisons to Hitler, it is obvious that you are using hyperbole.
 

Reynolds

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You realize that when someone votes as a Democrat, registers as a Democrat, or votes in a Democratic primary, they are not handed a baby to murder, right?

For a Party to take a position that there should be no restrictions on abortion is not the same thing are performing an abortion. Moreover, you are completely ignoring the diversity of opinion on the subject in the Democratic Party, including the significant pro-life faction of the Party.

You line of reasoning is similar to those persons who have condemned me for voting Republican because I allegedly support "letting children go hungry" through the reform of government assistance.


More than a few million people - and he did have a few good things in his platform, including the rebuilding of infrastructure and the ban on the vivisection of animals.

Of course, when you resort to making comparisons to Hitler, it is obvious that you are using hyperbole.
Protecting abortion is in the current platform. One can not run under that platform without having innocent blood in their hands. How many Democratic Senators you see promoting and supporting pro life justices? Actually, they almost universally fight tooth and nail to block pro life justices.
 

Reynolds

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same way we can do anything else, by willfully disobeying the teachings of scriptures!
And not all Democrats are bad, its just that most of them have been corrupted by the world views of the Enemy, and support things against God!
I would say your last sentence pretty well describes evil. Aborting an innocent unborn baby for convenience is PURE evil. Protecting the right to shed that innocent blood is likewise PURE evil.

I am quite sure someone will chime in about welfare. Is it better to give a person a slightly reduced check or to murder them? Abortion of the innocent is murder. Its as much murder as the pagans sacrificing their children to their false gods. Our innocent babies are being slaughtered on the altar of convenience and self love.
 
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