The GOP is trying to roll back Obamas socialism. If you read your Bible more closely, you will see that charity is not the job of the government.
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How can anyone support Democrats
- Thread starter Reynolds
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There were penalties for miscarriage. What's your point?
The judgment herein referred is to individuals. Nothing is said about taxing and spending. If it applies that way, Jesus must be on his own left side for not starting a Roman Medicare program.
It does refer to individuals but if your INDIVIDUAL action is non-Christian then the effect is the same. Are you saying that giving to your church or the Red Cross is not a good thing because you don't directly use the funds?? ABSOLUTELY NOT. You're just as guilty as you would be if you cancelled that old woman's insurance who's dying of cancer. The effect is the same.
And "the effect is the same" whether anyone "canceled that old woman's insurance who's dying of cancer" or millions of others never never made any insurance possible for her. And that would include Jesus himself for those who lived in his time. And certainly it would include the apostles, early Christians, and Christians throughout most of the ages. Are they going to be on Jesus' left for not establishing or keeping healthcare policies? Yes or No.
I'm informing you how the thinking usually goes with Christians who believe that abortion is not murder. The penalties for causing a miscarriage (essentially what an abortion would have been in the day) are not the same as the penalties for murder.
And the penalties for intentional and accidental death are different.
Charity is the job of the church, not the nation state.
Listen, I'm not trying to convince you of the argument. I am simply explaining how some people see it.
Apparently not according to this FTW, who asks how anyone can be a Christian and not support socialism.
Find me the Biblical command for nation state charity.
I know. Some people also think its ok for men to "lie" with men so long as it is monogamous and loving. Not me!
So now you think you can second-guess the Lord's actions? Many times He chose to not heal someone for His own reasons. The answer is NO. He is God and you are NOT. Remember that.
So you don't support United Way, the Red Cross, Cancer Foundation? Do you support meaningless wars like Viet Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq? Our nation-state is responsible for the murders that resulted from these actions.
United way, red cross, etc. Doing the job of The Church, undermine the mission of THE church.
None of those wars were meaningless. You fight small wars frequently or you fight huge wars not so frequently. Unfortunately, the option to refuse to fight and just peacefully float through life, does not exist.
Oh, that's on my mind constantly, I can assure you. That plus the fact that you ain't, either. The fact remains, though, that billions of people, Christians and not, never started or supported anything like Medicare. And if you think the direction of the world dictates one's status with God, that if one does not go along with what secularists say, you need a brain... will Medicare help you get it?
Is the question, "How can Anyone Support Democrats?", as in the title of the thread,
OR is it,
"How can Christians support this party?"
If the question is "How can Anyone Support Democrats" I think the answer is:
1. These people are believers in class warfare. The reason so many people are poor is because there's too many rich people gaming the system. Supporters of Democrats want wealth distribution.
2. They like big government to administer programs so they don't have to get personally involved. I think most people believe that a government safety net like Social Security and unemployment benefits is a good idea but Democrats want to take the idea further and further with more giveaway programs. Their penchant for entitlements is related to #1, class warfare, since after all, "the rich aren't paying their fair share", (they say), so tax the rich and give to the poor.
3. They are generally anti-military and anti 2nd amendment rights.
4. They are pro-environmental action.
If the question is "How can Christians support Democrats?", I don't have an answer for that given their pro abortion stance and their pro gay marriage stance.
What good resulted from any of those wars. We lost in Viet Nam. By attacking Afghanistan and Iraq we roused the radical Muslims to increase their attacks on not just us but the world. We now say Iran is one of our greatest enemies. We did them a BIG favor by taking down their greatest natural enemy, Iraq. Iraq proved to be a training ground for ISIS and was where they originated.
None of these wars protected our homeland. In fact, at one point GW Bush said bin Laden was no longer an important target. Then why did we start these two wars.
Personally, I'd far prefer that the church take care of the poor and homeless but our churches simply can't afford to do that. I calculated at one point it would take an average of $200,000/yr/Christian church in America (including Catholic churches) simply to provide medical insurance. Some larger churches could do that but most Baptist churches have about 100-200 regular attendees. Could your church meet that objective? And that doesn't include food programs, keeping seniors in nursing homes after their money runs out, etc. We currently spend as much on our military as the next 9 largest spending countries in the world combined and Trump wants to increase that significantly. There's also the not so small matter of the Pentagon being unable to determine how $8.5 T of defense funding was spent.
I have a far better brain than you you little man.