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How can anyone support Democrats

Baptist Believer

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Protecting abortion is in the current platform. One can not run under that platform without having innocent blood in their hands.
I see that you have shifted the question to a person who runs under that platform, not voting Democratic or being a member of the Democratic Party.

How many Democratic Senators you see promoting and supporting pro life justices?
I am aware of two pro-life senators, Joe Manchin and Joe Donnally. Remember, there are more issues and lives at stake than just the unborn ones, so there are a number of factors that go into confirming a justice.

You should really take a look at this site: Democrats for Life
 

Reynolds

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I see that you have shifted the question to a person who runs under that platform, not voting Democratic or being a member of the Democratic Party.


I am aware of two pro-life senators, Joe Manchin and Joe Donnally. Remember, there are more issues and lives at stake than just the unborn ones, so there are a number of factors that go into confirming a justice.

You should really take a look at this site: Democrats for Life
I have not shifted the question. A person can not vote for someone under that platform without having blood on their hands either. Wow 2 pro life Democrats. The Democratic party is completely hostile to the pro life position. Look at the ultra liberals Barry Hussein Obama packed the Federal courts with and tell me about how pro life the Democrats are.
 

Baptist Believer

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I have not shifted the question. A person can not vote for someone under that platform without having blood on their hands either.
So you have blood on your hands for all of the innocent Iraqis who have died in the various wars over there?

Wow 2 pro life Democrats.
Well, two notably pro-life senators, since you were talking about senators. About 1 in 3 Democrats in the US are pro-life. They do not support the portion of the Party platform regarding abortion.

It sounds as if you have never had an issue with anything on the Republican Party platform.

The Democratic party is completely hostile to the pro life position. Look at the ultra liberals Barry Hussein Obama packed the Federal courts with and tell me about how pro life the Democrats are.
You are simply ranting. I'm not trying to convince you that the official Democratic Party platform is pro-life in terms of abortion. It's not. But that's not the accusation that you made earlier that
 

Reynolds

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So you have blood on your hands for all of the innocent Iraqis who have died in the various wars over there?


Well, two notably pro-life senators, since you were talking about senators. About 1 in 3 Democrats in the US are pro-life. They do not support the portion of the Party platform regarding abortion.

It sounds as if you have never had an issue with anything on the Republican Party platform.


You are simply ranting. I'm not trying to convince you that the official Democratic Party platform is pro-life in terms of abortion. It's not. But that's not the accusation that you made earlier that
Wars were ordained and expressly approved by God in Scripture. Can you show me where He ordained or approved abortion of the innocent?
If you want to take issue with Iraq, which is simply a meaningless diversion to the facts at hand, both parties almost unanimously authorized that war. There is no innocent in war. The sins of the fathers are paid for by the children. O.T. pretty clearly demonstrates that.
 

Reynolds

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So you know the heart of this pastor?
Anyone who would kill a baby on its day of delivery because the cord is still attached, has a very black heart. Murderers (who have not repented) and those who uphold, support, and in essence enable them, are not good people.
 

Baptist Believer

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I will go further and say that a person can not have The Holy Spirit living in them and condone such a great evil.
You realize that most folks who support abortion or allow for abortion do not recognize that it is murder? W.A. Criswell, a former pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas (SBC), until the early 1970s used to hold the position that an unborn child was not a person until they took their first breath (aka, "the breath of life"). Criswell used to say that Bill Clinton learned his position on abortion from Southern Baptists.

On the occasion of the Roe v Wade decision, Dr. Criswell said, "I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed."

For more information, you may want to read this article.
 
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Reynolds

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You realize that most folks who support abortion or allow for abortion do not recognize that it is murder? W.A. Criswell, a former pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas (SBC), until the early 1970s used to hold the position that an unborn child was not a person until they took their first breath (aka, "the breath of life"). Criswell used to say that Bill Clinton learned his position on abortion from Southern Baptists.

On the occasion of the Roe v Wade decision, Dr. Criswell said, "I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed."

For more information, you may want to read this article.
Well aware of that fact. Someone who holds a position that foolish does not hear from The Spirit. The 70s were the heyday of SBC liberalism and worthlessness.
 
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Baptist Believer

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Well aware of that fact. Someone who holds a position that foolish does not hear from The Spirit. The 70 were the heyday of SBC liberalism and worthlessness.
Um, okay. Criswell was kind of the founding light of the so-called "conservative resurgence" in the SBC. So you're saying that the guy who published, "Why I Preach that the Bible is Literally True" (1969) and laid the spiritual foundations of the SBC today did not hear from the Spirit...
 

Reynolds

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Um, okay. Criswell was kind of the founding light of the so-called "conservative resurgence" in the SBC. So you're saying that the guy who published, "Why I Preach that the Bible is Literally True" (1969) and laid the spiritual foundations of the SBC today did not hear from the Spirit...
Did not hear The Spirit tell him that it is alright to kill innocent babies. I know who Criswell is. In my opinion, he was definitely no founder or pillar in the Conservative resurgence. Where did he find in The Bible his foolish notion that it is alright to murder babies?
 

Baptist Believer

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Criswell was not even on board at first. He had to be convinced there was a real problem. The men who began the whole thing was Judge Pressler and Paige Patterson.
Well I'm not going to argue the facts. It's all in a continuous chain of events. You are correct that Pressler and Patterson began the political mechanization and strategy before Criswell got involved in that process.

I just think it is foolish to claim that someone "does not hear the Spirit" if they are mistaken in matters great and small. I am no great fan of Criswell, Patterson, or Pressler, but it is not for me to say that they "do not hear the Spirit." I am not in a position to know and I will not be their final judge. I can only state with confidence what I know to be correct and call others to recognize it.
 

Baptist Believer

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In my opinion, he was definitely no founder or pillar in the Conservative resurgence.
Many people who lived through it and knew many of the big names personally (myself included) would disagree with you.

Where did he find in The Bible his foolish notion that it is alright to murder babies?
You can find the information if you look for it. Most of it came from the penalties assigned for causing a woman to miscarry. And remember, very few people who seek abortion or support abortion think they are committing murder.
 

FollowTheWay

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This man would have been the Democratic nominee had the DNC played fair.
Bernie Sanders's Religious Test for Christians in Public Office


How can Christians support this party?
How can Christians support the GOP? They are trying to take health insurance away from 24 M people. Also plan to cut tax support for Medicare which almost all retirees rely on. Cutting 3/4 T out of Medicaid which is used extensively to keep senior citizens in nursing homes after all their money runs out. Cut food for the hungry and are taking aim at Social Security. All oft this is being done to increase our already bloated war machine and to cut taxes for the rich. If you take seriously the way in which we will be judged by the Lord as described in MAT 25:31-46 how can any Christian support this anti-Christian agenda?

Mat 25:40

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
 

Salty

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I support ending Obama care because it is NOT a federal issue - If a State/Commonwealth wants to have it - that is their business
I support the feds ending Food Stamps - again NOT a federal issue. In addition - I have seen so much misuse of the program.
 
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