How Do People Buy Guns Legally?

[Squire Robertsson]

From the Legal Brief
In the discussions here, many assume the American firearms market is unregulated. Mr. Kraut in this video gives an overview of the real-life hoops buyers and sellers have to jump through. I hope he is able to clear up the misconceptions that keep coming up here.

 

[TCassidy]

Unfortunately, they won't care. They have their narrative and don't care what the facts are.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

That very well maybe. But, at least the facts of the matter are now on record in this forum.

Unfortunately, they won't care. They have their narrative and don't care what the facts are.

 

[tyndale1946]

I've never owned a gun but I do recall Uncle Sam gave me one but then he took it back... I guess that was because he gave me a Tank... He didn't let me keep that one either... Brother Glen

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

The facts as seen around the world are very simple. The USA, like no other country, has the highest number of mass murder, especially in their schools, where young kids have access to weapons to murder. You might not like this, but this is FACT. I also hear that in many Churches, workers carry guns, because here too there has been an increase in people being murdered. Another fact, because of your "right to arms", millions of weapons to commit murder have fallen in to the wrong hands, and it is not far too late to do anything about it. The ONLY hope is that more people get converted and become true followers of the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[thatbrian]

Cain killed his own brother by crushing his skull with a rock. No permit required.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Making sure you have a NICS that works correctly and is enforced would be a good first step to changing the situation.

How The National Instant Criminal Background Check System Works

List: 13 gaping holes in FBI gun background check system

NICS doesn't work largely because the NRA has been doing its best to sabotage it every chance it had.

The NRA Is Taking Credit For the Background Check System It Tried to Sink

NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

The gun industry (NSSF) is fortunately making some progress in the right direction.

FixNICS | FixNICS.org

 

[Saved-By-Grace]

Cain killed his own brother by crushing his skull with a rock. No permit required.

we are dealing with 2018, not 5000 B.C!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

we are dealing with 2018, not 5000 B.C!

We were dealing with “Sin” both then and now. Just the thought of committing murder will probably eventually become actual / physical murder... that is the true violent instrument(weapon) not a machine loaded with gun power projectiles.

 

[Salty]

FBI Stats on murder

 

[church mouse guy]

In Indiana, when you buy a gun, the shop owner takes your ID and runs it through a check before he takes your money. The check is to determine if you have any felony convictions for one thing and I don't know what else.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

In NJ, you gotta get a permit which requires BRC by your local police, your State Police, the FBI....and maybe your mother. That entitles you to go and shop and buy, however it takes time. I didn’t say that that entitles you to carry, or hunt... only purchase. BTW there is a time restriction and a quantity restriction imposed as well.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

In Indiana, when you buy a gun, the shop owner takes your ID and runs it through a check before he takes your money. The check is to determine if you have any felony convictions for one thing and I don't know what else.

Do they ask your race, if you are a Vet etc?

 

[TCassidy]

Here is the form you fill out prior to the seller calling the FBI NICS number and giving them your information and the FBI checking their data base to make sure you are not a prohibited person.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4...n-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download

 

[Adonia]

we are dealing with 2018, not 5000 B.C!

And in this day and age there are many more violent people running around who won't hesitate to assault or kill you - even in your own home. While I can respect your heeding of Jesus's words to "turn the other cheek", most of us would rather have the means to effectively protect ourselves and our families.

 

[HankD]

Gun deaths are horrible, drunk driving deaths are horrible, medical error deaths are horrible, abortion deaths are horrible

Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

And in this day and age there are many more violent people running around who won't hesitate to assault or kill you - even in your own home. While I can respect your heeding of Jesus's words to "turn the other cheek", most of us would rather have the means to effectively protect ourselves and our families.

Turn the other cheek - indicates a non-life threatening confrontation.

You have the right to defend your life.

 

[Adonia]

Gun deaths are horrible, drunk driving deaths are horrible, medical error deaths are horrible, abortion deaths are horrible

Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.



Turn the other cheek - indicates a non-life threatening confrontation.

You have the right to defend your life.

I agree, but some Christians like our friend might look at these words differently.

 

[HankD]

I agree, but some Christians like our friend might look at these words differently.

True but then he has to grapple with that if and when the murderer comes to his front door.

No one can predict what they will go in the face of death until they arrive there.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

This horse has been beat to death. Murder is against the law. Therefore, all murders are outlaws. So what?

While I might chose to turn the other cheek if I am offended, that does not apply to family, friends or loved ones. I will strike out to defend them.

 

[HankD]

This horse has been beat to death. Murder is against the law. Therefore, all murders are outlaws. So what?...

I beg the differ Wesley, only 1 page so far? We are just getting started