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How do science and Scripture relate to each other?

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by Deacon, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. Deacon

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    Deacon said:
    Galileo might have problems with that!

    Think about it...
     
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    The bible did not contradict his viewpoints though....
     
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    Except that many 'scientists" engage in science with the lens that there is no God and they do not want one. In fact many scientists want the "science" to prove there is no need for God. Science is man made scripture is God made therefore science should be understood and interpreted through the lens of scripture. Find out what scripture says and means first, then view the world and all creation through that lens. Anything else is flawed to the bone.
     
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    Scripture rightly understood will always agree with science that is true, as both the Bible and creation are revelations of/from God to us!
     
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    Science and scripture are not on equal footing. Scripture is far superior.
     
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    I agree , as it is specific revelation from God to us, but nature is still a general revelation, and they would agree with eaxh other!
     
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    That would mean you would place yourself in agreement with #3

    Rob
     
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    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.



    Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

    1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

    1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.


    You want to know WHY?... all things were created by him, and for him

    Brother Glen:)
     
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    Those scriptures still don't tell us WHY. A woodworker can build a monstrosity in his backyard; you know he built it by and for himself, but that doesn't tell you why.
     
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    OK, here is language that a 10 year old can understand... Because he wanted to... Brother Glen:rolleyes:
     
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    That was not in question. Or it compares to the Mouseketeers saying they'll see you soon because they like you.

    But the corollary is : could he have not created it all without creating a vast majority of humanity to burn in eternal.al torment?
     
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    Oh now I hear what you are saying!... Brother Glen:)

    Romans 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

    9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

    9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

    9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

    9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
     
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    And that would place them in the first category - separate magisteria - with those scientists placing theology in a fictional category.

    Rob
     
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    No it wouldn't. Such a claim makes no sense.
     
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    The original question was not what one believes but how one views the relationship between the science and Scripture.

    Some atheistic scientists believe that science is totally separated from scripture, religion or theology;

    Some Christians believe that science and Scripture have a tenuous relationship at best.
    Others believe that the two are strongly interconnected
    Non-Christian theists can believe in a form of this connectedness.

    Rob
     
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    The Bible is not a science book,but when it references something that science now studies the Bible is correct. If science disagrees with The Word, then science is wrong.
     
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    No, you are right, Scripture does not contradict Galileo's observations that the earth moves and is not the center of the solar system.

    The Galileo affair did however effect how Scripture can be interpreted.
    So science (the study of the physical world) can change how we interpret Scripture and effect theology.

    Rob
     
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    Yeah, as noted the 'Galileo Affair' sort of blew this view out of the water.
    Galileo was persecuted for the anti-scriptural view that the earth moved and was not the center of the universe.
    Theologians of that time had to adjust how they interpreted Scripture when confronted with the scientific facts. It was difficult.

    The obvious conclusion is that sometimes our understanding of God's creation-revelation leads us to adjust how we interpret Scripture.

    There is some interaction between science and Scripture.
    It goes both ways.

    Rob
     
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    Good theology and good science always reveal truth. There is one truth, approached from many different ways.

    Scripture reveals Who and Why, and science reveals What, When, and How - with some overlap in regard to most of the five questions.

    I have great appreciation for scripture and for science and will not reject either.
     
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    I do not reject science I reject man made science with ungodly presuppositions. I do not hold science up as inspired revelation or even coming close to being equal in authority of scripture both in faith and in effect or practice. Science must be understood through the lens of scripture not apart from it.
     
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