I was thinking about our theological debates (namely the reoccuring debates pertaining to God's sovereignty) and how we view each other in our debates. I don't mean "is He or she truly a Christian, but rather what we expect of each other. What I see is that our views are sometimes inconsistent, maybe?
To those who are non-cals do you expect calvinistic theological systems to get smarter? Is it that they are limited or blind to see what sometimes is said to be obvious? Are Calvinists so hard hearted over their ideas that they cant see your points? Do they listen to you when you speak? Most importantly how do you feel about and pray for them?
To the Cals, do you expect non cals to get it or is it God that needs to teach them? Why get upset or angry at them when their ignorance is part of the flesh? Why talk to them as if they should understand even if explained in a hundred different ways if it is God who reveals? I personally do not know when to get bold and angry vs how long I should be patient with both sides. Many on here come across hateful, arrogant, impatient, and so on. Some seem to be more patient and caring in their repetitive explanations. Some simply dont listen at àll? Now im talking of both sides of the spectrum.
So how do you handle this, what are your true motives on here? Is your posting consistent with your motives?
Personally, I am on here, to learn, think, and I enjoy explaing things. At times my views are challenged while other times they are proved. I do not like to disagree especially when the ine in opposition is using bad debating skills. It makes me mad at times while i also experience times of compassion for many reasons. 1. Some are bound up by fleshly debating, 2. Some just aren't mature (im not speaking of anyone individual) and this maturity could be in simple hermeneutics or previously brainwashed ideas. In any case I feel many get bad treatment while some need a timeout. I do feel i am most consistent and in the right heart when I feel as though the ones in error need Gods teaching while I also do not delight in error as in life it leads to issues and sin. At times I view myself to highly (most of the time) while other times i realize my understanding i have is not from my sinful human brain but from God? This keeps me humble and more reliant on God to help debates rather than men to teach themselves.
Now, both sections of questions go both ways. I am a Calvinist on the boards and as many do on here I would like to see peaceful debate (although over the years ive learned that is wishful thinking). Im interested to see how everyone deals with this on here? Namely protecting ourselves from a the sin such as pride and self-righteousness on the board.
To those who are non-cals do you expect calvinistic theological systems to get smarter? Is it that they are limited or blind to see what sometimes is said to be obvious? Are Calvinists so hard hearted over their ideas that they cant see your points? Do they listen to you when you speak? Most importantly how do you feel about and pray for them?
To the Cals, do you expect non cals to get it or is it God that needs to teach them? Why get upset or angry at them when their ignorance is part of the flesh? Why talk to them as if they should understand even if explained in a hundred different ways if it is God who reveals? I personally do not know when to get bold and angry vs how long I should be patient with both sides. Many on here come across hateful, arrogant, impatient, and so on. Some seem to be more patient and caring in their repetitive explanations. Some simply dont listen at àll? Now im talking of both sides of the spectrum.
So how do you handle this, what are your true motives on here? Is your posting consistent with your motives?
Personally, I am on here, to learn, think, and I enjoy explaing things. At times my views are challenged while other times they are proved. I do not like to disagree especially when the ine in opposition is using bad debating skills. It makes me mad at times while i also experience times of compassion for many reasons. 1. Some are bound up by fleshly debating, 2. Some just aren't mature (im not speaking of anyone individual) and this maturity could be in simple hermeneutics or previously brainwashed ideas. In any case I feel many get bad treatment while some need a timeout. I do feel i am most consistent and in the right heart when I feel as though the ones in error need Gods teaching while I also do not delight in error as in life it leads to issues and sin. At times I view myself to highly (most of the time) while other times i realize my understanding i have is not from my sinful human brain but from God? This keeps me humble and more reliant on God to help debates rather than men to teach themselves.
Now, both sections of questions go both ways. I am a Calvinist on the boards and as many do on here I would like to see peaceful debate (although over the years ive learned that is wishful thinking). Im interested to see how everyone deals with this on here? Namely protecting ourselves from a the sin such as pride and self-righteousness on the board.