BobRyan
God is not willing for ANY to perish but for ALL to come to repentance" 2Peter 3.
God does not say this as you keep posting it. Stop it.
God is very willing that many perish...multitudes
9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. (NKJV)
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.(KJV)
Your argument is "with the text".
Sadly - you simply state your position as a direct contradiction of scripture (God says NOT willing that any should perish - and you say "oh no - not true" in effect).
Probably a Calvinist solution to Bible texts that refute Calvinism.
"HE came to HIS OWN and HIS OWN received Him NOT" John 1
Places your Matt 7 text in context.
BobRyan
Not at all.....when you understand......but is long-suffering TO US-WARD...you will understand what this verse really teaches..
hmm when I "think like you" then I will "think like you"???
How "instructive".
No Bob....sadly you ignore the context....look at 3:1-
3 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
look at verse 8;
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Do you see it yet??? Peter is writing to Christians
Indeed he is - but at no point does Peter say "All non-Christians who will later become Christians - well God does not care about them - because they are not reading this letter now" -- even by your own logic this is the case.
The slice-and-dice that Calvinism "needs" to do when God makes a sweeping statement - noted.
Now lets look at the "unlimited ALL" in 2Peter 3 so contradicting of Calvinist doctrine.
3 Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with
their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For
ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” 5 For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that
by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6 through which the
world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
God who "So loved the WORLD" is concerned with "the WORLD".
Peter points to unlimited world-wide reach of God - desiring ALL to come to repentance and yet if they persists in evil - destroying the entire planet.
There is no fictional "well all the saved and also all the lost that will one day be saved - but then nobody else to be concerned about" in the text.
Which is where Calvinism fails in 2Peter 3.
All the name calling that Biblicist may wish to do against Arminians does not change the text.
in Christ,
Bob
