Thank you for sharing. My prayer is that in 10 years my testimony will mirror yours, and my children will also be the "go to christian friend" amongst their peers.
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How does your Church deal with Child professions of Faith?
- Thread starter Berean
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It appears no one has commented on my post (#2), so I have started a new thread, with that as the OP.
Praise God dad! Doesn't it bring absolute joy to your heart that your child walks with the Lord? THAT is what I want for my kids more than a perfect job or a perfect spouse or perfect beauty or riches. Walk with the Lord and all else will work itself out in HIS will.
saturneptune
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The office of pastor is clearly defined in Paul's letters. One of the duties of a pastor is not to analyze what age someone came to salvation.
WHAT! Another watchman lured to the dark side!
And, seriously. Right on! I love the the story you've shared. My wife and me are full-time volunteer directors of a children's camp. We get a lot of "big-folk" too but what we've seen in our time here...God is unfathomably-infinitely-unimaginably-unknowingly-mind-blowing-fearfully awesome!
I don't analyze it....I just don't believe it.:laugh:
salzer mtn
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I'm kind of curious as to the steps you people take with your very young children, or the steps your children take to come to the full assurance of salvation. Do you have them to repeat after me, like a person would take an oath at the court house? do you lead them down the Roman's road by asking them if they believe certain scripture ? Do you have them get down on their knees to pray through ? Do they repeat a sinners prayer ? After all of this has taken place, do you remind them daily or monthly or ever so often that they made a decision for Jesus, because they are very young and they might forget ? Who will be first ?
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I'll go first, but please explain, how do you view salvation? Is it a process that requires time, as you so often imply? You also strongly imply that it's something that can be lost and not easily found.
And, how often have you forgotten about your salvation?
I don't have children. I was one however, and as I said before I was saved at five years of age. And while I admit that many of my childhood memories have dimmed as I've aged, I do know with assurance that I was saved then. It was instantaneous, my eternal, inevitable destiny, re-routed in a twinkling.
The Romans road is an incredible witnessing application of scripture, very affective. As an evangelical "tool", it is relatively modern. I think that my meager lifespan predates the term and current usage. The thief on the cross certainly missed out on it. He failed to kneel, too.
I'll ask again, what plus John 3:16 equals salvation? What else do you believe is necessary? I've know others that have struggled with this issue as you seem to, there's hope!:love2:
salzer mtn
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No, i don't believe in loosing your salvation. There are things that accompany salvation, or there is no salvation at all. It's like making good corn bread, there are certain ingredients that are to be put in and not left out to make it complete. I am setting here looking at a Roman's road tract that say's 7 simple steps to salvation. I noticed at no. 5 it say's Christ at hearts door. So in my presentation i would say, Tommy, or Susie, Christ is knocking at your hearts door. and then i would read them the scripture from Rev. 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. But how do i know that Christ is knocking at Tommy or Susie's heart door ? Am i the Holy Spirit ? Do i tell the Holy Spirit who's door to knock on ? The scripture, St. John 3:8 say's The wind (Spirit) bloweth where it listeth ( Willith) or the Spirit bloweth where it want's to blow. You cannot direct the wind, you cannot direct the Holy Spirit. In Act's chapter 9 verse 5 The Lord told Saul (Paul) it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Paul was like a Ox that was kicking against the goad. This scripture indicates to me that Paul had been for sometime under the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. It could have all started at the time Stephen was stoned and they laid their clothes at a young man's feet named Saul. No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me DRAW him: and i will raise him up at the last day, John 6:44. Drawing by the Holy Spirit cannot be left out of the things that accompany salvation.
Look.....you can get a kid to emulate any thing.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfey6f_baby-gets-the-holy-spirit_people#.UWlqODfa7F8
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfey6f_baby-gets-the-holy-spirit_people#.UWlqODfa7F8
salzer mtn
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By jove, say's daddy to mommy, put her in the books, i think she's got it.:thumbsup:
Just as we do with anyone else who is at the point of salvation, we go over what the Gospel is. We cover creation, sin, the law, the cross and redemption. We see that the child understands just what happens with salvation - even if it's in a simple form. For my kids, they understood sin and punishment, understood that they needed to be punished for their sin but Christ died on the cross to take that punishment. It was not a foreign concept to them. We had them pray in their own words - no leading them in a prayer. They had heard us pray for the last bunch of years around them and with them so they knew how to pray. We would celebrate their salvation and let others around us know as well. It was always a banner day in our household!
If you have to ask, you have no business in this conversation. Move along, nothing to see here.
Is salvation of God or man? Your view on this is baffling coming from someone claiming "the doctrines of grace"
salzer mtn
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Religion And Eternal Life- The difference
Religion is to know bible facts; Life is to know Him, 1 John 5:20. Religion is to know what i believe; Life is to know whom i believe, 11 Tim 1:12. Religion is to be baptized into the church; Life is to be baptized into Christ Rom 6:3. Religion is to be reformed; Life is to be regenerated, St. John 3:3. Religion is to be a new convert; Life is to be a new creature in Christ, 11 Cor 5:17.
Religion is to know bible facts; Life is to know Him, 1 John 5:20. Religion is to know what i believe; Life is to know whom i believe, 11 Tim 1:12. Religion is to be baptized into the church; Life is to be baptized into Christ Rom 6:3. Religion is to be reformed; Life is to be regenerated, St. John 3:3. Religion is to be a new convert; Life is to be a new creature in Christ, 11 Cor 5:17.
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That video just proves children learn from watching and listening to those around them.
People here claim children are born telling lies, but they ALWAYS speak the language of their parents. No child of English speaking parents speaks Spanish or any other language, they ALWAYS speak the exact same language as their parents. So if they lie, they learned it from listening to their parents and siblings.
Little children can believe in Jesus, Jesus himself said so.
Mat 18: 2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
We can see in context that Jesus was speaking of a very small child, small enough to be picked up and placed in the midst of his disciples, and Jesus said these children BELIEVE IN ME.
Thomas Helwys
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And that's a faulty view of what Christ did. What are you going to tell them if they come to the point of asking you if Christ took their punishment, why do they still have to suffer and die?
I'm not understanding how it is faulty. We deserve to be eternally separated as our punishment. Christ took that punishment. Has nothing to do with physical punishment but eternal. Ann is spot on.
Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Eternal blood to take eternal punishment.
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Thomas Helwys
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Well, that's one view among several. I do not agree with it. I prefer what the early church taught.
ashleysdad
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By, the way congratulations on your childrens salvation. It is truly amazing when God moves in the life of a little one and they respond in simple childlike faith and are saved. God bless you and your family.