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Darrell C

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Academic giants like Betsy DeVos perhaps.

I'm just not sure that anyone can possibly hurt Public Education any more than it has been.

One thing I feel could be done in regards to Education reform is to allow tax credits for those who home school or send kids to private Christian schools. We saved the state roughly $45,000 a year yet nothing was there for us in regards to any kind of tax credit. Wouldn't do it any differently though if I had it to do over again.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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:( Man, we really have lowered expectations that far haven't we.

It might be just the opposite problem.

Today we are expected to...

Agree that someone born a man is actually a woman (the Lord made a mistake in assigning this person obviously);

Agree that the murder of infants is acceptable practice;

Agree that homosexuality is okay and the Lord is wrong on that as well;

Agree that children have no need to follow the accepted authority of adults in positions of leadership over them;

Agree that using drugs is just as safe as using alcohol (kind of like debating whether using a noose or a shotgun do one's self in, if you ask me);

Agree that protestors have the right to riot and break the law;

Agree that morality is relative;

Agree that tolerance and political correctness is defined by those in power;

Agree that great great great granpa swung from a tree.


It seems to me that expectations are not only higher but have gone off the deep end...


God bless.
 

Use of Time

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It might be just the opposite problem.

Today we are expected to...

Agree that someone born a man is actually a woman (the Lord made a mistake in assigning this person obviously);

Agree that the murder of infants is acceptable practice;

Agree that homosexuality is okay and the Lord is wrong on that as well;

Agree that children have no need to follow the accepted authority of adults in positions of leadership over them;

Agree that using drugs is just as safe as using alcohol (kind of like debating whether using a noose or a shotgun do one's self in, if you ask me);

Agree that protestors have the right to riot and break the law;

Agree that morality is relative;

Agree that tolerance and political correctness is defined by those in power;

Agree that great great great granpa swung from a tree.

It seems to me that expectations are not only higher but have gone off the deep end...


God bless.

Oh, so we've just moved onto the usual liberal vs. conservative stuff and ditched the point about our potential Secretary of Education being completely clueless.
 

Darrell C

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Oh, so we've just moved onto the usual liberal vs. conservative stuff and ditched the point about our potential Secretary of Education being completely clueless.

No, we have just moved on to Christian versus Liberal (or whatever any particular Political Religionist wants to call themself).

Seems to me that this woman has a pretty extensive history with Education. What do you know about it?


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Darrell C

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Oh, so we've just moved onto the usual liberal vs. conservative stuff and ditched the point about our potential Secretary of Education being completely clueless.

By the way, you view a man calling himself a woman and vice versa...stuff?


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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Wow, moving the goalposts a little aren't we?

Not at all. This is a Christian Forum. Even the political discussion should be expected to hold to Christian Doctrine and Christian Values.

Not politically correct liberal nonsense.


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Darrell C

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Yes, when it comes to an argument morphing into something else entirely different, Darrell C is very progressive.

I addressed the view that repentance was necessary.

That's not being progressive, that's simply entering the conversation and dealing with what is being said.

So what is a charge of being "clueless" towards someone who has an extensive history working for the cause of Education?

And that is the problem with Liberals, they do not want to discuss things, they simply want to tell you what it is you must believe. Well, that's great, champion the people who, when they don't get their way...riot. Then give me the passage/s that make that Christian effort.

I'll say it again:

No, we have just moved on to Christian versus Liberal (or whatever any particular Political Religionist wants to call themself).

Am I glad Trump won? Yup. Does that mean that I have turned into a Political Religionist that spends all his time worrying about it? Nope.

Time will tell if Trump will be a good President, but History shows that Obama has been bad for this Country from the perspective of the Christian. It's not a liberal/conservative issue because I have spoken with Atheists that are far more conservative than some who post here who call themselves Christians.

And here's my list again:

Today we are expected to...

Agree that someone born a man is actually a woman (the Lord made a mistake in assigning this person obviously);

Agree that the murder of infants is acceptable practice;

Agree that homosexuality is okay and the Lord is wrong on that as well;

Agree that children have no need to follow the accepted authority of adults in positions of leadership over them;

Agree that using drugs is just as safe as using alcohol (kind of like debating whether using a noose or a shotgun do one's self in, if you ask me);

Agree that protestors have the right to riot and break the law;

Agree that morality is relative;

Agree that tolerance and political correctness is defined by those in power;

Agree that great great great granpa swung from a tree.


It seems to me that expectations are not only higher but have gone off the deep end...


Now if any "Christian" here wants to defend those issues and try to make them pertain to Christianity, you let me know.

Fair enough?


God bless.
 

Use of Time

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I addressed the view that repentance was necessary.

That's not being progressive, that's simply entering the conversation and dealing with what is being said.

So what is a charge of being "clueless" towards someone who has an extensive history working for the cause of Education?

And that is the problem with Liberals, they do not want to discuss things, they simply want to tell you what it is you must believe. Well, that's great, champion the people who, when they don't get their way...riot. Then give me the passage/s that make that Christian effort.

I'll say it again:

No, we have just moved on to Christian versus Liberal (or whatever any particular Political Religionist wants to call themself).

Am I glad Trump won? Yup. Does that mean that I have turned into a Political Religionist that spends all his time worrying about it? Nope.

Time will tell if Trump will be a good President, but History shows that Obama has been bad for this Country from the perspective of the Christian. It's not a liberal/conservative issue because I have spoken with Atheists that are far more conservative than some who post here who call themselves Christians.

And here's my list again:

Today we are expected to...

Agree that someone born a man is actually a woman (the Lord made a mistake in assigning this person obviously);

Agree that the murder of infants is acceptable practice;

Agree that homosexuality is okay and the Lord is wrong on that as well;

Agree that children have no need to follow the accepted authority of adults in positions of leadership over them;

Agree that using drugs is just as safe as using alcohol (kind of like debating whether using a noose or a shotgun do one's self in, if you ask me);

Agree that protestors have the right to riot and break the law;

Agree that morality is relative;

Agree that tolerance and political correctness is defined by those in power;

Agree that great great great granpa swung from a tree.


It seems to me that expectations are not only higher but have gone off the deep end...


Now if any "Christian" here wants to defend those issues and try to make them pertain to Christianity, you let me know.

Fair enough?


God bless.

Super strawman in full effect.
 

Use of Time

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Gosh, never heard that one before.

You are free to show why my points are in error.


God bless.

Probably the part where you turned a discussion regarding the secretary of education into a discussion about everything in the world there is to discuss.
 

InTheLight

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And here's my list again:

Today we are expected to...

Agree that someone born a man is actually a woman (the Lord made a mistake in assigning this person obviously);

Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want

04/21/16 08:49 AM EDT

Agree that homosexuality is okay and the Lord is wrong on that as well;

Trump LGBT.jpeg


Agree that using drugs is just as safe as using alcohol (kind of like debating whether using a noose or a shotgun do one's self in, if you ask me);

Donald Trump: Legalize ALL the Drugs
08.03.15 12:45 PM ET


Now if any "Christian" here wants to defend those issues and try to make them pertain to Christianity, you let me know.

Fair enough?


Defend your vote for Trump based on his positions on those issues you identified (above).
 

Darrell C

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Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
04/21/16 08:49 AM EDT



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Donald Trump: Legalize ALL the Drugs
08.03.15 12:45 PM ET





Defend your vote for Trump based on his positions on those issues you identified (above).

You seem to be a little confused: I don't care what Trump says, what I care about is what the Word of God says.

We can go through the statements of anyone and create propaganda, but Christians have a a higher standard.

That is...the Word of God.

So the question here is not what Trump thinks...its what you think.

Do you think transgender people should use whatever bathroom they want?

Do you think all drugs should be legalized?

As to your continued effort to make Trump holding that flag to be Trump supporting LGBT...what does that have to do with my vote for Trump? Trump is a politician and an actor, am I to be surprised at anything he does? He is obviously not a Christian, again, am I to be surprised at what he does?

The fact is that the most important thing that took place is that Obama is gone (though he will be around making speeches to the morons that supported him and making a nice fee I am sure) and...

...Hillary lost.

Me, I have no problem voting for the lesser of two evils.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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Probably the part where you turned a discussion regarding the secretary of education into a discussion about everything in the world there is to discuss.

Its actually one point: Obama and Clinton are liberal antibiblical and Christless people who have made a mockery of the Government of this Country as well as its people.

But since we are on it, its okay for you to say someone that has an extensive background working for the good of education in this country is clueless.

Typical liberal logic.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
04/21/16 08:49 AM EDT



View attachment 1182




Donald Trump: Legalize ALL the Drugs
08.03.15 12:45 PM ET





Defend your vote for Trump based on his positions on those issues you identified (above).

By the way, please state your sources for these statements, so they can be seen in the context they were spoken.


God bless.
 

Use of Time

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Its actually one point: Obama and Clinton are liberal antibiblical and Christless people who have made a mockery of the Government of this Country as well as its people.

But since we are on it, its okay for you to say someone that has an extensive background working for the good of education in this country is clueless.

Typical liberal logic.


God bless.

I mean she had no idea how to answer any question while failing to show even a passing knowledge of current educational issues during her initial grilling but she's rich so she's qualified...which was also a question that left her (and most of America) speechless.
 
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