How many Gospels are their ???

[dan p]

Hi to all , and there are many believers and I means saved people , that believe that there is ONLY ONE GOSPEL !

And some believers , say that there are at least 4 or up to 6 Gospels .

One example is when Gabriel , in Luke 1:19 preaches the EVAGGELIZO/GOSPEL to Zacharias .

SO, how many Gospels do you see ;

#1 , one

#2 , two

#3 , three

#4 , four

And give verses if you have one ?

 

[Ruiz]

The problem with your question is how you use the word "gospel". The logical fallacy is that you may be using the word "Gospel" in another way for each answer.

For instance,

There is only one Gospel that saves.

There are 4 Gospels of the New Testament.

Gospel is used in two different ways in the above sentences. One is referring to the books that recount Jesus' life. The other refers to the message of salvation needed for salvation. Thus, in logic we would call the above an equivocation. Another example of equivocation is below:

“Son, when you grow up I want you to always be a responsible young man.” Son: “But Dad, I am already very responsible. Whenever something breaks around here, it seems as if I am always responsible.”

The same word is used, but the kid is equivocating in his use of the word, "responsible."

Thus, if you ask, "Is there 1 gospel or are there four?" I would say, "Yes." However, If you asked, "Is there more than one Gospel for the salvation of man or are there four gospels for the salvation of man." I would say, "only one."

I hope that helps.

(I do understand other books of the Bible are sometimes considered Gospels, but again there is often an equivocation in meaning).

 

[Dr. Walter]

The problem with your question is how you use the word "gospel". The logical fallacy is that you may be using the word "Gospel" in another way for each answer.

For instance,

There is only one Gospel that saves.

There are 4 Gospels of the New Testament.

Gospel is used in two different ways in the above sentences. One is referring to the books that recount Jesus' life. The other refers to the message of salvation needed for salvation. Thus, in logic we would call the above an equivocation. Another example of equivocation is below:

“Son, when you grow up I want you to always be a responsible young man.” Son: “But Dad, I am already very responsible. Whenever something breaks around here, it seems as if I am always responsible.”

The same word is used, but the kid is equivocating in his use of the word, "responsible."

Thus, if you ask, "Is there 1 gospel or are there four?" I would say, "Yes." However, If you asked, "Is there more than one Gospel for the salvation of man or are there four gospels for the salvation of man." I would say, "only one."

I hope that helps.

(I do understand other books of the Bible are sometimes considered Gospels, but again there is often an equivocation in meaning).

There is only ONE gospel of Jesus Christ for salvation (Gal. 1:6-9) and that is the gospel which is "according to the Scriptures" - the Old Testament Scriptures (I Cor. 15:3-4; Acts 26:22-23; 10:43).

In I Corinthians 15:3-4 the Gospel that saves is about "how" Christ died for our sins. The four "gospels" (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) expand this "how" and tell us in detail "how" he died for our sins. So the Gospel can be reduced to one simple sentence (Gal. 3:8) or two simple sentences (I Cor. 15:3-4) or expanded to an entire book (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) but the essence of it is in the doctrine of Justification by faith (Rom. 3:24-30) in regard to our acceptance before God and possession of eternal life now and promise of entrance into heaven in the future (Jn. 5:24).

 

[RAdam]

And by the way, those aren't four different gospels, but four different gospel accounts. "The Gospel According to Matthew," "The Gospel According to Mark," etc. It's four different men under inspiration of the same Spirit telling us about THE gospel.

There is only one gospel. It goes by different names. It is called the gospel of Jesus Christ the Son of God, the gospel of the kingdom, the gospel of Christ, the gospel of your salvation, etc. Much like the Kingdom of God, there are several different names that describe one thing.

 

[Ruiz]

And by the way, those aren't four different gospels, but four different gospel accounts. "The Gospel According to Matthew," "The Gospel According to Mark," etc. It's four different men under inspiration of the same Spirit telling us about THE gospel.

There is only one gospel. It goes by different names. It is called the gospel of Jesus Christ the Son of God, the gospel of the kingdom, the gospel of Christ, the gospel of your salvation, etc. Much like the Kingdom of God, there are several different names that describe one thing.

RA,

This is where it gets even more fun. They are four different gospels (four different books) and they are also four different accounts of the Gospel.

Thus, you can say that the Gospels convey the gospel but is more than the Gospel but only contains that which is the Gospel and is distinct from the other Gospels but is the same Gospel.

How is that for a tongue twister.

 

[dan p]

Gospels ??

RA,

This is where it gets even more fun. They are four different gospels (four different books) and they are also four different accounts of the Gospel.

Thus, you can say that the Gospels convey the gospel but is more than the Gospel but only contains that which is the Gospel and is distinct from the other Gospels but is the same Gospel.

How is that for a tongue twister.

Hi to all , and this does not answer what I have posted , but can not resist the following , where Paul uses the word Gospel in his descriptive names to the Body of Christ .

#1 , My Gospel is used in Rom 2:16 ; 16:25 ; and 2 Tim 2:8

#2 , The Gospel of Christ in Rom 1:16 ; 15:19 ; 1 Cor 9:12 etc....

#3 , The Gospel of Peace in Rom 10:15

#4 , The Gospel of His Son is found in Rom 1:9

#5 , The Gospel o0f God in Rom 1:1 ; 15 ;16

#6 , The Gospel of the Uncircumcision in Gal 2:7

#7 , The Gospel of nyour salvation in Eph 1:13

 

[dan p]

the Gospel in the bible !!

RA,

This is where it gets even more fun. They are four different gospels (four different books) and they are also four different accounts of the Gospel.

Thus, you can say that the Gospels convey the gospel but is more than the Gospel but only contains that which is the Gospel and is distinct from the other Gospels but is the same Gospel.

How is that for a tongue twister.

Hi to all , and this is what Gal 2:7 says .

#1 , Paul says in Gal 2:7 that the Gospel of the UNcircumcision was committed to him , which means Gentiles .

#2 , And to Peter was committed the message of Cicumcision , or to the Jews .

#3 , Then in Gal 3:8 we have a Gospel that was preached to Abram , which is a gospel .

#4 , And in Rev 14:6 , we have the Everlasting Gospel that will be preached to those in the Tribulation which verse 7 calls the hour of Judgment.

What say you ??

 

[targus]

What say you ??

I say that there is one Gospel.

The Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

 

[Jim1999]

Targus, I believe you are correct: "The Good News of Jesus, the Christ, and Redeemer of our sorry souls....."

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Andre]

On the matter of precisely what Paul meant by the term “gospel”, here is Romans 1:2-4

2the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, 4and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. 5 Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace....

Paul says that that the gospel is something about Jesus. Then Paul elaborates the content of gospel in terms of who Jesus is. He reaches the end of his sentence about the gospel at the end of verse 4 (note the period there). Nowhere does Paul make any statement about us, except that Jesus is Lord over us. More specifically, nowhere does Paul make any claim about “how we get saved” in this statement of the gospel. So people are free to define the “gospel” as “you can be saved by faith in Jesus”. But that is not how Paul uses the term.

Now to address verse 5: Assuming that we understand the "receiving of grace" as entailing salvation, Paul is saying that we get salvation through Jesus. But this does not change that verses 2-4 assert that the content of the gospel is about who Jesus is - the Davidic Messiah whose resurrection constitutes Him as Lord of the world. So the "gospel" is not "grace or salvation by faith" - it is what Paul says it is here, things predicated of Jesus.

 

[RAdam]

A gospel wasn't preached to Abraham in Galatians 3:8. Paul said the scripture preached before the gospel unto Abraham.

 

[Dr. Walter]

A gospel wasn't preached to Abraham in Galatians 3:8. Paul said the scripture preached before the gospel unto Abraham.

"To HIM give ALL THE PROPHETS witness that whosever believeth in his name shall receive remission of sins" - Acts 10:43

I believe the first prophet was Abel (Lk. 11:50-51)

 

[Thinkingstuff]

"To HIM give ALL THE PROPHETS witness that whosever believeth in his name shall receive remission of sins" - Acts 10:43

I believe the first prophet was Abel (Lk. 11:50-51)

Not too many quotes from Able saved his blood accused cain from the ground.

 

[dan p]

I say that there is one Gospel.

The Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Hi targus , ok , where does it say that with a verse ?

I showed at least 4 verses that shows 4 different Gospels !!!

By the way , where does your Gospel begin ???

At Genesis , Acts 2 with Pentecost ?

What is your timeline ???

 

[Dr. Walter]

Hi targus , ok , where does it say that with a verse ?

I showed at least 4 verses that shows 4 different Gospels !!!

By the way , where does your Gospel begin ???

At Genesis , Acts 2 with Pentecost ?

What is your timeline ???

The gospel begins in Genesis 3:15 along with the visual shedding of blood of the animals (lambs I beleive - Rev. 13:8) to ceremonially illustrate the gospel.

Abel was the first human prophet to preach the gospel and did so through the same visual means by adopting the very offering God provided in the garden (Heb. 11:4).

Re 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

 

[Jon-Marc]

The first four books of the NT are not four gospels. They are four different accounts of ONE gospel, the gospel of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for sin. He is viewed in them as Saviour, Lord, King, and sacrificial Lamb.

 

[dan p]

The Gospel ??

On the matter of precisely what Paul meant by the term “gospel”, here is Romans 1:2-4

2the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, 4and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. 5 Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace....

Paul says that that the gospel is something about Jesus. Then Paul elaborates the content of gospel in terms of who Jesus is. He reaches the end of his sentence about the gospel at the end of verse 4 (note the period there). Nowhere does Paul make any statement about us, except that Jesus is Lord over us. More specifically, nowhere does Paul make any claim about “how we get saved” in this statement of the gospel. So people are free to define the “gospel” as “you can be saved by faith in Jesus”. But that is not how Paul uses the term.

Now to address verse 5: Assuming that we understand the "receiving of grace" as entailing salvation, Paul is saying that we get salvation through Jesus. But this does not change that verses 2-4 assert that the content of the gospel is about who Jesus is - the Davidic Messiah whose resurrection constitutes Him as Lord of the world. So the "gospel" is not "grace or salvation by faith" - it is what Paul says it is here, things predicated of Jesus.

Hi , and I have two comments , first on Rom 1:2 . There is much dispute on the word HOS , translated by our English word " which " .

This pronoun is the most crucial verse in the whole bible .

This pronoun has 3 meaning , #1 , who or whom , when referring to Persons

#2 , WHAT , when referring to objects .

#3 , WHICH , when referring to things .

When looking at the Greek word O , the Article has one breathing mark .

The Greek word for HOS , which has looks like O , but has one breathing mark and one Accent , and most fail to see that .

Even if anyone refuses to believe what I have written , Christ Himself is the Gospel .

This is FIRST taught in Gal 1:16 .

Where Paul wrote , " in order that I might preach Him as the Gospel ".

You are quoting Paul , and then Paul writes in Eph 3:5 , " which in OTHER AGES was NOT made known unto the sons of men , AS IT IS revealed unto His holy apostles ( and it means those apostles that helped Paul )
by the Spirit .

Paul says by the Holy Spirit , Not made known until Paul , writes about it .

 

[Dr. Walter]

Peter does not say it was not known. He merely states it was not know "AS IT IS" now. This is progressive revelation He is speaking about. The gospel was revealed as Acts 10:43; Heb. 4:2; Acts 26:22-23 and many other texts from the NEW Testament demand but it was obviously not revealed as it is now becuase then it was progressive and yet to be fulfilled but now it is fulfilled and therefore no longer progressive in revelation as well.

Hi , and I have two comments , first on Rom 1:2 . There is much dispute on the word HOS , translated by our English word " which " .

This pronoun is the most crucial verse in the whole bible .

This pronoun has 3 meaning , #1 , who or whom , when referring to Persons

#2 , WHAT , when referring to objects .

#3 , WHICH , when referring to things .

When looking at the Greek word O , the Article has one breathing mark .

The Greek word for HOS , which has looks like O , but has one breathing mark and one Accent , and most fail to see that .

Even if anyone refuses to believe what I have written , Christ Himself is the Gospel .

This is FIRST taught in Gal 1:16 .

Where Paul wrote , " in order that I might preach Him as the Gospel ".

You are quoting Paul , and then Paul writes in Eph 3:5 , " which in OTHER AGES was NOT made known unto the sons of men , AS IT IS revealed unto His holy apostles ( and it means those apostles that helped Paul )
by the Spirit .

Paul says by the Holy Spirit , Not made known until Paul , writes about it .

 

[RAdam]

"To HIM give ALL THE PROPHETS witness that whosever believeth in his name shall receive remission of sins" - Acts 10:43

I believe the first prophet was Abel (Lk. 11:50-51)

The passage is saying that the scripture preached before the gospel to Abraham. It's not talking about just any old preaching that was performed before the gospel, but a specific message that was preached to Abraham, and this was done before the gospel. Why does Paul go there? Well, he is contrasting the works of the law with the faith system (the gospel). He goes to the beginning of the Jewish nation, Abraham, and proves that Abraham lived by faith, not by the works of the law. What did the scripture preach to Abraham before the gospel came? It said, "in thee shall all nations of the earth be blessed." God told that to Abraham in Genesis 12:3. Paul equates God speaking to the scripture preaching.

The passage did not say the gospel was preached to Abraham, but that the scripture preached something to Abraham before the gospel.

 

[Andre]

Hi , and I have two comments ,

I could not understand your point. My argument is that what Paul actually writes shows us that he basically sees "the gospel" as the message that "Jesus is Lord", not "you can be saved by faith in this Jesus".

And please do not misunderstand me - I am not denying that you can be saved by faith in Jesus, just that this is not what Paul means when he refers to "the gospel".

Another argument to this effect:

For Paul, the “gospel” is effectively the announcement that Jesus Christ is the Davidic Messiah whose resurrection constitutes Him as Lord of all the world:

In contrast to this, we have the (admittedly) widely accepted idea that the gospel is the news that people can be saved through faith in Jesus Christ.

Here is Galatians 2:14:

14But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, "If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?

This usage of the term “gospel” supports the first take on what the “gospel” is for Paul. In Galatians 2, Paul is making an argument against Jew-Gentile divisions in the church. To the extent that Paul considers the gospel to involve a declaration of Jesus’ lordship over all the world, he could be expected to argue that this gospel compels Jew and Gentile to behave as a single family under that single Lord.

By contrast, the positions the gospel is the good news about being saved by faith in Jesus really has no relevance at all to resolving an argument about Jew-Gentile table fellowship, which is what we know Paul is talking about in Galatians 2.