How Many Of You Still Believe...

[atpollard]

In what capacities?

They built the sets.
(sorry, I couldn’t resist the opening)

Literally “Rocket Scientists” (Aeronautical Engineers) working on the launch system here in beautiful Florida. We have a local company that STILL makes guidance systems for missiles and satellites (they have gotten a lot better since the 1960’s).

 

[KenH]

They built the sets

 

[atpollard]

How did the moonwalkers manage to avoid the thousands of micrometeorites per hour hitting the lunar surface? Those particles travel at speeds beyond 20,000 per hour. That would cause the LM to be punctured as well as the spacesuits of the astronauts.

85 pounds and 25 layers of Teflon coated fiberglass cloth (spacesuit).

 

[RipponRedeaux]

85 pounds and 25 layers of Teflon coated fiberglass cloth (spacesuit).

I don't think that would have been quite sufficient. And their helmets? What about the LM?

 

[Salty]

I ...And their helmets? What about the LM?

Didn,t the astornuts use left over helmets from WW I??

 

[RipponRedeaux]

In the descent stage of the LM there were five compartments. Quadrant one contained the Moon Rover. The last three missions used rovers. They weighed 463 pounds. Do you really think they could have rolled up so neatly?

Why would anyone have risked their life to go romping around in the dune buggy so far from the LM? What if one or both astronauts roving around encountered some trouble being comparatively far from the "mothership"? That would have not only been risky, but foolhardy.

Have you examined pictures of the LM? It looks rather fragile. Lindbergh's The Spirit of St. Louis was downright sturdy in comparison. The LM looks like a 5th grade art project. And those golden spindly legs! What a hoot.

Nah, the whole premise of the "missions" is too unbelievable from every aspect. But getting through the Van Allen Radiation Belts is way too unrealistic. That's why I insist that no manned craft has gone beyond low Earth orbit. Some of the supposed astronauts who went to the moon never even heard of the Van Allen Radiation Belts. They never felt a thing because they did not go through the VARB. Who wrote this lousy script?

 

[tyndale1946]

Ho hum we never went to the moon... Now explain the Challenger?... Was that just for show... Seven people died... Conspiracy?... Brother Glen

 

[Salty]

Ho hum we never went to the moon... Now explain the Challenger?... Was that just for show... Seven people died... Conspiracy?... Brother Glen

and lets not forget those who died in Apollo 1, among others
These 10 Brave Astronauts Died in Space: Their Stories | Cake Blog

 

[Salty]

Since this Thread is ready to die soon.......
A Non-Comprehensive List of People Buried in Space

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Ho hum we never went to the moon... Now explain the Challenger?... Was that just for show... Seven people died... Conspiracy?... Brother Glen

You're confused. The Challenger Mission was never to go to the moon. It was to be a manned mission within the Earth's orbit.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Since this Thread is ready to die soon.......
A Non-Comprehensive List of People Buried in Space

Who says that this thread is about to expire soon? There have been threads that have had 150, even over 200 replies. I'm just warming up. That is, unless someone wants to do some censoring of an unpopular viewpoint. But that would not be a Christ-like thing to do.

I have asked some substantive questions that have largely been ignored. A lot of the time the subject has been reduced to levity. Not good.

 

[Salty]

I have asked some substantive questions that have largely been ignored. A lot of the time the subject has been reduced to levity. Not good.

Same thing happened to the thread about the poster who was trying to prove that the moon was made out of green cheese

 

[tyndale1946]

Same thing happened to the thread about the poster who was trying to prove that the moon was made out of green cheese

What he forgot to tell you was his mouse ate it... Brother Glen

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Same thing happened to the thread about the poster who was trying to prove that the moon was made out of green cheese

This post of yours and your others are of the same stamp. No substance.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Who says that this thread is about to expire soon? There have been threads that have had 150, even over 200 replies. I'm just warming up. That is, unless someone wants to do some censoring of an unpopular viewpoint. But that would not be a Christ-like thing to do.

I have asked some substantive questions that have largely been ignored. A lot of the time the subject has been reduced to levity. Not good.

The point about levity may have some validity, but many points have been addressed.

The televised feed and video could not be faked back then. The Van Allen Belts were circumvented. These points have been explained in great detail.

Protection from micrometeorites has been partially addressed.

People have been braving dangerous frontiers for millennia. Risk of life and limb is a part of space exploration. This is a non-issue.

Personal incredulity is not real evidence, and of course that cuts both ways.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

The extent of the claimed conspiracy needs to be briefly laid out.

Is it that no one reached the moon, or only that no one landed there? For example, did they not launch men at all? Did they not recover anyone from a returned command module? Were the Soviets in on it? Just how deep was this supposed conspiracy?

You can start another thread when this one reaches its limit. But so far, it is unclear if any counter evidence would ever satisfy those supporting a conspiracy theory.

 

[Salty]

This post of yours and your others are of the same stamp. No substance.

Just trying to be like you!

 

[Silverhair]

This post of yours and your others are of the same stamp. No substance.

What I have seen from you in this thread is just, believe me the moon landing did not happen. What I have not seen from you is any proof {credible source} that it did not happen and at the same time we have a number of comments that refer to credible sources showing that it did happen.

Now the only conclusion that one can logically draw is that you are putting forward a unfounded conspiracy theory. But that seems to be the hill you are willing to die on although it does seem to be a rather lonely place.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

In the descent stage of the LM there were five compartments. Quadrant one contained the Moon Rover. The last three missions used rovers. They weighed 463 pounds. Do you really think they could have rolled up so neatly?

Why would anyone have risked their life to go romping around in the dune buggy so far from the LM? What if one or both astronauts roving around encountered some trouble being comparatively far from the "mothership"? That would have not only been risky, but foolhardy.

Have you examined pictures of the LM? It looks rather fragile. Lindbergh's The Spirit of St. Louis was downright sturdy in comparison. The LM looks like a 5th grade art project. And those golden spindly legs! What a hoot.

Nah, the whole premise of the "missions" is too unbelievable from every aspect. But getting through the Van Allen Radiation Belts is way too unrealistic. That's why I insist that no manned craft has gone beyond low Earth orbit. Some of the supposed astronauts who went to the moon never even heard of the Van Allen Radiation Belts. They never felt a thing because they did not go through the VARB. Who wrote this lousy script?

Some thoughts (YMMV):
--Van Allen Belts: Upthread were some detailed posts on these radiation belts, some of which are apparently much closer to Earth that the ISS orbit. That info also included belt architecture and how properly launched spacecraft could avoid passing thru the VA belts, and also measurements of radiation received within spacecraft, numbers that were far lower than what would be damaging.
-Micrometeoroids: Though their velocity generally exceeds 20,000 mph, their mass is almost always very small. Spacecraft and spacesuits are designed with an outer layer that causes the tiny objects to vaporize on contact such that heat is dissipated before the inner layers are compromised. If that were not so, not only Neil Armstrong et.al. but all those doing extra-vehicle work at the ISS and other manned spacecraft now and earlier would have the same danger. The moon's surface area is over 12 million square miles, so the chances of being hit by a micrometeoroid large enough to puncture a space suit would be very low, though not zero. Space exploration, like earthly explorations to the poles/undersea/mountaintops, include a measure of danger. The smallest micrometeoroids reaching the Earth's atmosphere do not burn up, due to their tiny mass being slowed before encountering sufficient atmosphere to produce enough heat. It's the same principle that dropping a mouse from 1,000 feet doesn't injure the animal but would be far different for a human.
--LEM: Those skinny legs aren't really spindlier than the wheel struts on Spirit of St. Louis, and Lindbergh's airplane had to land in Earth's gravity, much greater than that on the moon.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Why hasn't any nation, including the USA not had a manned flight to the moon for half a century after the purported first first men walked on the moon almost 54 years ago?
Is it just a matter of the lack of money?
Has any technology in the history of the world ever gone backwards?
In 1969 people were saying that within a decade there would be manned Mars stations.
Why haven't there been any advances in this arena, if the manned moon landings were real?

Someone, anyone, please respond to the questions above.