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How Many Resurrections In Revelation?

How many resurrections in Revelation?

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kyredneck

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Do you really believe they were riding white horses from heaven?

Do you really believe the glorified Jesus Christ had a sharp sword coming out of HIS mouth!

Do you really believe the above is a picture of a physical battle between God and the armies of the beast!

Do you really believe that Jesus Chjtist slew the people with the sword in HIS mouth.

How many did Jesus Christ slay?

:thumbs: Lol, I suppose they also believe it is a literal red dragon with seven literal heads with a literal whore literally riding his back chasing after a woman clothed literally with the sun, moon, and stars! Lol!
 

Darrell C

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Do you really believe they were riding white horses from heaven?


Do you really believe the glorified Jesus Christ had a sharp sword coming out of HIS mouth!



Do you really believe the above is a picture of a physical battle between God and the armies of the beast!


Do you really believe that Jesus Chjtist slew the people with the sword in HIS mouth.

How many did Jesus Christ slay?


Address the OP.

Address why the three resurrections I pointed out are not three resurrections.

Stop derailing the topic.

I really hate to have to whine, BR.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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:thumbs: Lol, I suppose they also believe it is a literal red dragon with seven literal heads with a literal whore literally riding his back chasing after a woman clothed literally with the sun, moon, and stars! Lol!

We understand what they represent. Just as we understand what Joseph's dream represents, because just as it was in Genesis, even so it is in Revelation.

It is explained, not explained away, as your Catholic Doctrine seeks to do.

So you will not answer the question?

Are you as lawless as BR and will show contempt for the request of the OP, as well as the staff? If not, then you should excuse yourself from the discussion.


God bless.
 

kyredneck

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Do you really believe they were riding white horses from heaven?

Do you really believe the glorified Jesus Christ had a sharp sword coming out of HIS mouth!

Do you really believe the above is a picture of a physical battle between God and the armies of the beast!

Do you really believe that Jesus Chjtist slew the people with the sword in HIS mouth.

How many did Jesus Christ slay?

:thumbs: Lol, I suppose they also believe it is a literal red dragon with seven literal heads with a literal whore literally riding his back chasing after a woman clothed literally with the sun, moon, and stars! Lol!

They also literally ignore the imminency of His coming and literally 'seal up the words of the prophecy' by relegating it all to the far distant future:

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John; who bare witness of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, even of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of the prophecy, and keep the things that are written therein: for the time is at hand. Rev 1:1-3

I come quickly: hold fast that which thou hast, that no one take thy crown. Rev 3:11

And behold, I come quickly. Blessed is he that keepeth the words of the prophecy of this book.,,,,,,,,,, And he saith unto me, Seal not up the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand.,,,,,,,, Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to render to each man according as his work is.,,,,,,,,,,,,,, He who testifieth these things saith, Yea: I come quickly. Amen: come, Lord Jesus. Rev 22:7,10,12,20

When He said 'shortly come to pass', and, 'I come quickly', and, 'the time is at hand', He literally meant precisely that.
 
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Darrell C

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It is not there. But I believe there will be a New, or redeemed earth and New heaven where Jesus Christ will conduct the White Throne Judgment, Satan and the unbelievers will be cast into the Lake of Fire, and then the Triune God will dwell with the redeemed of all time as shown in Revelation 21!

No you don't. You think there will be sinners when the new heavens and earth are created.

That was shown yesterday. That happens when one stumbles through Eschatology. Their doctrine trips all over itself. Just have to engage them loving enough to compare the "truths" they teach.

Again, you are invited to address the OP. You claim to have done that but, in your popish manner...you think your doctrine is the final word.

It isn't. lol

And you are completely unable to address the simple points that reveal your doctrine as deceiving, garbled, and completely in conflict with the Word of God.

We don't have to snip passages to show the consistency of Scripture.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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They also literally ignore the imminency of His coming and literally 'seal up the words of the prophecy' by relegating it all to the far distant future:

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John; who bare witness of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, even of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of the prophecy, and keep the things that are written therein: for the time is at hand. Rev 1:1-3

I come quickly: hold fast that which thou hast, that no one take thy crown. Rev 3:11

And behold, I come quickly. Blessed is he that keepeth the words of the prophecy of this book.,,,,,,,,,, And he saith unto me, Seal not up the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand.,,,,,,,, Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to render to each man according as his work is.,,,,,,,,,,,,,, He who testifieth these things saith, Yea: I come quickly. Amen: come, Lord Jesus. Rev 22:7,10,12,20

When He said 'shortly come to pass', and, 'I come quickly', and, 'the time is at hand', He literally meant precisely that.

So if that is the meaning...show Christ's Return? Its not a depiction of His spiritual Return to rule in the hearts of His people...that was fulfilled at Pentecost.

Will you address the resurrections of Revelation?

Not likely. Your Catholic Doctrine and Practice forbids it.


God bless.
 

revmwc

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Do you really believe they were riding white horses from heaven?


Do you really believe the glorified Jesus Christ had a sharp sword coming out of HIS mouth!



Do you really believe the above is a picture of a physical battle between God and the armies of the beast!


Do you really believe that Jesus Christ slew the people with the sword in HIS mouth.

How many did Jesus Christ slay?

The bible says it was white Horses doesn't it, are you challenging the Holy Spirit? Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

Since John says Jesus was the word and is the Word then His word proceeds from His mouth and they fall over dead.

We see John 18:5-6, "5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground."

The sword came from his mouth that day too but it wasn't to slay them but to show His power over them and their lack of power over Him.

Yes it is a physical battle the bible says they were gathered on earth to fight against the one on the white horse, that is Christ. Where else would the armies of the earth be gathered?

the key that this is literal is found in Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh

Fowls can't eat the flesh of something that is mystical or figurative, only what is literal and physical. They consume the bodies of the all the unbelievers. What a great feast for the fowls of the earth.

Revelation 19:17 "And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great." this says it would be a physical meal of the flesh.

The number will be in the billions based on our population today.
 

OldRegular

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:thumbs: Lol, I suppose they also believe it is a literal red dragon with seven literal heads with a literal whore literally riding his back chasing after a woman clothed literally with the sun, moon, and stars! Lol!

That is one reason I posted the following:

Anyone who attempts to understand the Book of Revelation as a chronological record of events is doomed to failure in understanding its message.

Anyone who attempts to apply a strict literal interpretation to the Book of Revelation is doomed to failure in understanding its message.

The Book of Revelation was written to the Churches at a period of time when were undergoing severe persecution from both Jews and the pagan Empire of Rome.

Revelations is a book of comfort for the Saints, the "true believers". Revelations is a book of comfort for the Saints because it shows that all the redeemed of all time emerge triumphant over Satan and Evil through Jesus Christ our LORD! Revelations is a book of comfort because it shows that all the redeemed of all time will dwell eternally in resurrected and glorified bodies in the presence of the Triune GOD in the New Heavens and New Earth!

Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. {Revelation 21:3, 4}

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Yet some on this Forum throw the Church, for which Jesus Christ shed HIS blood, OUT and teach that GOD is going to turn this world over to the antichrist to do as he wills for a period of seven years. It is beyond belief, borderline blasphemy!
 

OldRegular

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The bible says it was white Horses doesn't it, are you challenging the Holy Spirit? Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
Is the Word of God a two edged sword?
 

kyredneck

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So if that is the meaning...show Christ's Return?

Biblical 'second coming':

40 When therefore the lord of the vineyard shall come, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those miserable men, and will let out the vineyard unto other husbandmen, who shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner; This was from the Lord, And it is marvelous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And he that falleth on this stone shall be broken to pieces: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will scatter him as dust.
45 And when the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. Mt 21

Occurred already. Done. Completed. Past. Over with. Finished.

... Its not a depiction of His spiritual Return to rule in the hearts of His people...that was fulfilled at Pentecost.

So YOU say. 'You people' are CARNAL. Period. You're looking for a kingdom of this world that can be seen with the eye and touched with the hand when we have been told the kingdom of God is NOT such.
 

Darrell C

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That is one reason I posted the following:

And the reason your Catholic Doctrine was addressed.

Still waiting for you to address How Many Resurrections in Revelation.

The view there is only one has been shown to be intentional error.


God bless.
 

revmwc

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They also literally ignore the imminency of His coming and literally 'seal up the words of the prophecy' by relegating it all to the far distant future:

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John; who bare witness of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, even of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of the prophecy, and keep the things that are written therein: for the time is at hand. Rev 1:1-3

I come quickly: hold fast that which thou hast, that no one take thy crown. Rev 3:11

And behold, I come quickly. Blessed is he that keepeth the words of the prophecy of this book.,,,,,,,,,, And he saith unto me, Seal not up the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand.,,,,,,,, Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to render to each man according as his work is.,,,,,,,,,,,,,, He who testifieth these things saith, Yea: I come quickly. Amen: come, Lord Jesus. Rev 22:7,10,12,20

When He said 'shortly come to pass', and, 'I come quickly', and, 'the time is at hand', He literally meant precisely that.

From interlinear for Revelation 3:11 "Be Perceiving I Am Coming Swiftly be holding which you are having that no yet one may be getting the wreath of you." Seems the original says swiftly, He will come swiftly.

Revelation 22:7 "Be perceiving I am coming swiftly happy the one keeping the sauings of the before averment of the scrollet this" Again He comes swiftly.
Revelation 22:12 "and be perceiving I am coming Swiftly and the hire of me with me to from give to each as the act of his shall be." Again swiftly.
Revelation 22:20 IS saying the one witnessing these Yea I am coming Swiftly amen." Again swiftly.

Ver y simple when He comes He will come swiftly to bring judgment.
 

kyredneck

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From interlinear for Revelation 3:11...

WHAT IS THAT?

The word is tachu, it LITERALLY means 'quickly, speedily, without delay. As in:

25 "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Mt 5

7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: 'He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you." Mt 28

8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word . Mt 28

39 "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, Mk 9

8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid . Mk 16

29 As soon as she heard that, she arose quickly, and came unto him. Jn 11

As badly as 'you people' unabashedly make Christ and the apostles out to be liars, I tell you now unabashedly, they did not lie!

28 so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to them that wait for him, unto salvation. Heb 9
37 For yet a very little while, He that cometh shall come, and shall not tarry. Heb 10

DONE ALREADY!

28 Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Mt 16

DONE ALREADY!

64 Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.

DONE ALREADY!

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee into the next: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone through the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. Mt 10

DONE ALREADY!

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. Mt 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, until all these things be accomplished. Mk 13:30
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all things be accomplished. Lk 21:32

DONE ALREADY!
 
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revmwc

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WHAT IS THAT?

The word is tachu, it LITERALLY means 'quickly, speedily, without delay. As in:

25 "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Mt 5

7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: 'He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you." Mt 28

8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word . Mt 28

39 "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, Mk 9

8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid . Mk 16

29 As soon as she heard that, she arose quickly, and came unto him. Jn 11

As badly as 'you people' unabashedly make Christ and the apostles out to be liars, I tell you now unabashedly, they did not lie!

28 so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to them that wait for him, unto salvation. Heb 9
37 For yet a very little while, He that cometh shall come, and shall not tarry. Heb 10

DONE ALREADY!

28 Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Mt 16

DONE ALREADY!

64 Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.

DONE ALREADY!

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee into the next: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone through the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. Mt 10

DONE ALREADY!

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. Mt 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, until all these things be accomplished. Mk 13:30
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all things be accomplished. Lk 21:32

DONE ALREADY!











"Be Perceiving I Am Coming Swiftly be holding which you are having that no yet one may be getting the wreath of you." Seems the original says swiftly, He will come swiftly.

Revelation 22:7 "Be perceiving I am coming swiftly happy the one keeping the sauings of the before averment of the scrollet this" Again He comes swiftly.
Revelation 22:12 "and be perceiving I am coming Swiftly and the hire of me with me to from give to each as the act of his shall be." Again swiftly.
Revelation 22:20 IS saying the one witnessing these Yea I am coming Swiftly amen." Again swiftly.

Ver y simple when He comes He will come swiftly to bring judgment.
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Interlinear Bible is a straight Trnaslation from Greek to English and it uses the word swiftly, which means when Christ comes He will come swiftly to bring judgment. He will come swiftly to take us to the Mansion He has prepared for us. He will come for His Bride and then the balance of the Saints. He will rule for 1000 years and then the Great White Throne of Judgment will occur and the unbelievers will be raised judged and cast into the Lake of fire for their rejection of Christ.
 

kyredneck

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The Bible in every way absolutely supports His 'quick' (not THOUSANDS of years later) return.
 

Darrell C

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Amen, following the General Resurrection of ALL the dead of all time. No "snatching away"!

That is correct. At least the part that the Church is not caught up at this time.

We can see the Rapture of the Church does not coincide with the events described in Revelation, though we see what may be a picture of it when John is caught up in CH.4 and the Two Witnesses are resurrected and raptured in CH.11.

But Scripture does not teach a general resurrection of all the dead and living of all time at one resurrection, outside of the limited revelation of the Old Testament, which has become for some the proverbial sand some bury their heads in. It is no wonder these same people can also be seen to be very legalistic and vitriolic, forbidding men from any truth but their own.
The thought that God will enlighten anyone who diligently seeks Him is absurd, and no wonder they fear there Word of God "falling into the hands" of the average p
Plowboy... It will remove the bondage they seek to maintain. It will expose them as frauds.

They will be known for what they are.

Many cults have adopted this method of control. They carefully construct the cage, even as charlatan healers control healing meetings.


God bless.
 

kyredneck

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Interlinear Bible is a straight Trnaslation from Greek to English and it uses the word swiftly, which means when Christ comes He will come swiftly to bring judgment. He will come swiftly to take us to the Mansion He has prepared for us. He will come for His Bride and then the balance of the Saints. He will rule for 1000 years and then the Great White Throne of Judgment will occur and the unbelievers will be raised judged and cast into the Lake of fire for their rejection of Christ.[/QUOTE]

Young's LITERAL Translation:

11 Lo, I come quickly, be holding fast that which thou hast, that no one may receive thy crown. Rev 3
 

Darrell C

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The Bible in every way absolutely supports His 'quick' (not THOUSANDS of years later) return.

Sorry, no.

Answer the question.

At least explain to yourself why you can't...if that is possible.

The tactic of interjecting small talk as a cover for your inability only deceives those who employ it.


God bless.
 
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