So reveal the time when Christ returned quickly and explain why the Writer of Hebrews still awaited that Return.
God bless.
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How Many Resurrections In Revelation?
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So reveal the time when Christ returned quickly and explain why the Writer of Hebrews still awaited that Return.
God bless.
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2215360#post2215360
Explain how you can make the writer of Hebrews out to be a liar with a clear conscience .
OldRegular
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I did and have all along. You see the thing is you are calling something false because you disagree with it, however you cannot prove it false scripturally, why because of interpretation. You hate Darby and his teaching and you show contempt for anyone who believes that doctrine to be true. Jesus loved the Saducees and the Pharisee's hated their doctrine and He could prove them wrong, because He was God.
Our convictions are as deep as yours however we love you and understand you believe the way you believe, but we disagree with your stance. Is your a false doctrine God will judge that is ours God will judge that too. Are we False teachers only if we are teaching salvation by anything other means than by Grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
You just continue to say that's wrong or that false and never offer your version of the passages we submit. You eventually skimmed over what I asked and never got to the part which expressly says 1000 years they would reign with Christ.
OldRegular
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Darby's false doctrine was invented out of whole cloth. Those who believe the Darbyite doctrine of the "parenthesis Church" as an interruption in God's program for Israel and the pre-trib-"snatching away" of the Church is to believe that God left Christians ignorant for 1800 years about this doctrine. I have proved that pre-trib-doctrine false by Scripture but you reject the clear teaching of Scripture for the muddled machinations of Darby's mind while he was recuperating from a riding accident, believing he was given new revelation from God. Joseph Smith and Ellen G. White both believed they received new revelations from GOD about the same time period.
Jesus Christ did not die for a "parenthesis", an interruption in GOD's program for Israel! Those who believe that have a pathetic view of what Jesus Christ accomplished through HIS death on the Cross!
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Several of us have shown that from the early 100's to about 300 there was a belief in return of Christ for His church. For about 1500 years after the marriage of the church and sate in 350 or so the chruch of that period mingled pagan doctrine with church doctrine and until the 1800's or so those pagan-church doctrines intermingled until the reformation and the printing press put the bible in the hands of believers who begin to study and seek the truth, when we seek the truth instead of accepting what men teach the Holy spirit will reveal that truth to us. We just need to open our hearts to His teaching. The pastor I grew up under said this "study through a chapter at a time, as you read something will pop out as you and you say Oh! that's what that means. Put a dot by that verse and then re-read until you have a dot by every verse, that is the Holy spirit revealing it to you. Never take anyone's word about a teaching but search it out yourself," that is a very good practice and it works very well.
I see we agree Jesus did not put a Parenthesis in His program for Israel. He planned the church all along. He just didn't reveal it fully to Israel. He foreknew the choice Israel would make, Daniel proved that when He said that the Messiah would be cut off and He was in the 69th week or 483 years after the command to rebuild the city. God knew Israel would reject Christ. He knew the church would come into existence and yet He promised Israel that Messiah would rule and reign in Jerusalem and that they would live in peace. then He revealed to thee church that Christ earthly Kingdom would last 1000 years and that they would reign with as His Bride, being snatched away before the 70th week of Daniel took place.
Its not the Writer of Hebrews shown to be a liar, it is those who say the return of Christ has already been fulfilled shown to either be liars or deceived:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10:37&version=KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+9:28&version=KJV
Now my done already friend...answer the questions posed to you.
Explain why anyone should embrace your Catholic Doctrine and ignore the Biblical writers?
God bless.
Catholic Second Coming
Now what do you do with the rest of Christ's teaching? Start in Matthew 24 and read through CH.25 and show how Roman Mythology corresponds to the teaching found there.
When exactly did the Sheep and Goat Judgment take place?
We acknowledge the Kingdom of God revealed in the New Testament, as we have been translated into the Kingdom of His dear Son.
But we don't take a Jeffersonian approach of the Catholic and rip out the passages that don't agree with what we want to believe or what men say we have to believe.
Suicide by cherry picking.
God bless.
Now what do you do with the rest of Christ's teaching? Start in Matthew 24 and read through CH.25 and show how Roman Mythology corresponds to the teaching found there.
When exactly did the Sheep and Goat Judgment take place?
KRN said:
We acknowledge the Kingdom of God revealed in the New Testament, as we have been translated into the Kingdom of His dear Son.
But we don't take a Jeffersonian approach of the Catholic and rip out the passages that don't agree with what we want to believe or what men say we have to believe.
Suicide by cherry picking.
God bless.
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Despite all the attempts of our Catholic brethren to obscure the OP, do you think we have approached a conclusion on how many resurrection s we see in Revelation?
God bless.
I vote yes! I'm sure we didn't get a consensus but everyone has probably answered the poll!
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I hope so. Its sad that a few can be so disruptive to meaningful study of an issue.
God bless.
God gave them volition to believe like they wish and we have our right to our beliefe. Our nation gives all the right to free speech for now anyway.
But only 8 souls voted, lol.
Its also sad more believers are mnot actively involved in eschatological discussion. At one time I too overlooked how important it is, but perhaps if there were not so much disruption more would take part in it.
God bless.
Just like those saved on the Ark.
I don't see Scripture advocating a right to belief but a universal command to conform to God's will which He has made clear to us in the Word.
Free speech? Sure. But that does not mean freedom to disregard the rules or authority of the staff. Both have been shown contempt. Its still amazing to have professing believers show Scripture that same contempt.
When Christianity assumes a lawless mentality it ceases to be Christianity.
God bless.
God gave Adam and Eve the right to make a choice, He said don't eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for in the day you do you shall surely die. They chose to eat well Adam did, Eve was deceived, and they died, temporally and their offspring were born Spiritually dead.
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