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How much does a person need to know about Christ to be saved?

Guido

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I think it has to be faith in Christ being the sinless Son of God and God, and in His death, burial, and resurrection, with acknowledgement that you are a sinner, and that the blood of Christ atones for your sin.

I'm just not sure how much you need to know about Christ beyond that.
 

Marooncat79

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That there is a God who created the world and everything in it including man

that man has sinned and rebelled against God

that God has appointed His eternal Son Jesus to be the savior of the world and that God has commanded all men to repent and believe because they are sinners in the hands of an angry God

that if we confess our sin (repent), and embrace Christ as Lord and Savior, He is faithful and just to cleanse us
 

Marooncat79

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You seem to have an unBiblical view of repentance. Like the Churches of Christ or Mormonism. A Belief before a repentance.
Now Biblical repentance is prior to faith, Mark 1:15, ". . . repent ye, and believe . . . ."


Both repentance and faith are grace gifts

their order in scripture is irrelevant. Necessarily, one had to come before the other
 

Marooncat79

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That there is a God who created the world and everything in it including man

that man has sinned and rebelled against God

that God has appointed His eternal Son Jesus to be the savior of the world and that God has commanded all men to repent and believe because they are sinners in the hands of an angry God

that if we confess our sin (repent), and embrace Christ as Lord and Savior, He is faithful and just to cleanse us


Yes and that Christ lived a perfect life, died in our place and rose again that we might be reconciled into God
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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Jesus said that everyone who believes in Him has everlasting life. How much about Him must we know to have everlasting life? And is this the right seriotology, or must we follow the Romans road?
You need to know next to nothing. You simply need to submit to Him.

If you stay in that state however, it would be sin. The expectation of Christ is for His followers to grow from that point.
 

atpollard

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Repentance. Faith always being the result of repentance.
I am not sure that the CONCEPT of one being the result of the other makes sense when applied to "faith" and "repentance".

HYPOTHESIS:
  • You cannot "believe" unless you first "change the direction of your life".
  • You cannot "change the direction of your life" unless you first "believe".

Why would anyone reject the old and embrace the new (repent) without a belief in the Truth (faith)?
Why would anyone believe the Truth (faith) without that belief having an impact on their life (repentance)?
"Faith/Repentance" seem more "inseparable" that "cause/effect" (in either order).
 

kyredneck

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How much does a person need to know about Christ to be saved?

That there is a God who created the world and everything in it including man

that man has sinned and rebelled against God

that God has appointed His eternal Son Jesus to be the savior of the world and that God has commanded all men to repent and believe because they are sinners in the hands of an angry God

that if we confess our sin (repent), and embrace Christ as Lord and Savior, He is faithful and just to cleanse us

Yes and that Christ lived a perfect life, died in our place and rose again that we might be reconciled into God

So, @Marooncat79, you sure you got all the bases covered?

I so love the simplicity from times past:

"Let not conscience make you linger,
Not of fitness fondly dream;
All the fitness He requireth
Is to feel your need of Him
."
 

Marooncat79

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How can we be saved if we don’t know that we are sinners? That there is a God? That there is salvation in His Son?

it may be in our sub conscience but these elements have to be there
 

kyredneck

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All the fitness He requireth
Is to feel your need of Him

How can we be saved if we don’t know that we are sinners?

The brazen serpent was lifted up for those WHO WERE BITTEN.

In the type, not all had the need to look upon the brazen serpent.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up;
15 that whosoever believeth may in him have eternal life. Jn 3

8 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a standard: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he seeth it, shall live. Nu 21

The brazen serpent was lifted up for those that were bitten. Those NOT bitten had no need to go to the brazen serpent.

.........They that are whole have no need of a physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners. Mk 2:17

6 Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Mt 5

It is the Spirit working within His children that causes them to feel their need for the Savior.
 

37818

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I am not sure that the CONCEPT of one being the result of the other makes sense when applied to "faith" and "repentance".
With the understanding the Greek meaning a change of one's mind or one's view is being translated "repentance." Coming to any new or change in belief requires a change of one's view or mind.
 
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