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How much of a "sinner" are we really?

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Yeshua1

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I believe that a sinner is "dead in trespasses and sins", "depraved" and that "the heart is deceitful above all things" and "desperately wicked". But a sinner can respond to message of the Gospel through the drawing ("wooing") of the Holy Ghost of his own free will. THAT is anti- "Calvinist"

A sinner, once saved, cannot be lost again because he has been "born again", indwelled, and sealed by the Holy Ghost, EVEN if he sins after salvation. THAT is anti- "Arminian"

I deny them both, so I don't know which one you think I lean to .
We no longer have full free will, as we can freely still choose to do only what the sin nature allows for!
 

SheepWhisperer

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14074"]“Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:9–10)
The Greek construction does NOT support a state of sinless perfection, but that one who is a real Christian lifestyle will not be to continual sin. We still do sin, but it is no longer our very nature to sin!
Actually, one who is "begotten of God" now has two(2) natures. The "old man" and the "new man" (known by other names as well). The new man, new nature or, "the spirit" cannot sin. We, meaning our bodies, do not sin when we "walk in the spirit" instead of "after the flesh"
 

SheepWhisperer

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We no longer have full free will, as we can freely still choose to do only what the sin nature allows for!

Your nature allows you the HEAR don't it? It allows you to be afraid too. How many lost sinners want to fry in Hell for all eternity? All it takes is to BELIEVE "Hell" is real, believe enough to be AFRAID to go there, and believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is your only hope. Yeah, you have the "freewill" to do that. And "Belief" is NOT a "work". Do you want to go to Hell? No? Believe on Jesus. Simple stuff.
 

Yeshua1

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Your nature allows you the HEAR don't it? It allows you to be afraid too. How many lost sinners want to fry in Hell for all eternity? All it takes is to BELIEVE "Hell" is real, believe enough to be AFRAID to go there, and believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is your only hope. Yeah, you have the "freewill" to do that. And "Belief" is NOT a "work". Do you want to go to Hell? No? Believe on Jesus. Simple stuff.
A sinner cannot even know that they are indeed a lost person unless the Holy Spirit convicts them of their own sins!
 

SheepWhisperer

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That is correct. And they have to hear the Gospel. Do you know what this "conviction" is?

It's realizing that you are a lowdown, vile, hateful unworthy sinner headed for Hell, and deserve to go there, and that Jesus is wonderful and pure and righteous and sinless and is all powerful and JUST in sending you there..
 

Yeshua1

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That is correct. And they have to hear the Gospel. Do you know what this "conviction" is?

It's realizing that you are a lowdown, vile, hateful unworthy sinner headed for Hell, and deserve to go there, and that Jesus is wonderful and pure and righteous and sinless and is all powerful and JUST in sending you there..
The natural person thinks thay are OK, and that some might be bad enough to go to hell, but not them!
 
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