If you are planning a visit to the Holy Land, here is a short video of tips to avoid Israeli police brutality:
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"How to avoid Israeli brutality"
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ChrisTheSaved
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Live in land 2,000 years...be forced off because rich people. It might create some hard feelings, just saying.
Too bad there is no evidence to back up your assertion.
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ChrisTheSaved
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I used to be like you...sadly the facts just didn't back it up. These people were forced off their land.
1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia
It was a relatively peaceful area until this happened and it has provoked a lot of hostility.
Wow, if you read it in Wikipedia, it must be true. I did not know that preterists supported the Islamic cause.
The Palestinians were given a homeland by treaty called "Trans Jordan." Too bad Jordan will not let them live there.
God gave the 12 tribes the land. Palestinians are 2000 year invaders.
Many Palestinians are descendants of those 12 tribes*: Jews who converted to Christianity 1900 years ago. Many Israelis are descendants of the Khazars, a Turkic people who converted to Judaism in the 7th century AD. So much for physical descent!
*Actually only 2: no one knows what happened to the 10 deported by the Assyrians in 722BC
*Actually only 2: no one knows what happened to the 10 deported by the Assyrians in 722BC
Then His people rebelled against Him and crucified His only Son. The First Covenant has been completely replaced by the New Covenant under grace given to us by the Lord. Jews no longer have a special relationship with God. If they are to be saved they must be saved in exactly the same way as all of us, by Grace through faith leading to a personal relationship with Jesus.
Jews forever have a special relationship with God.
More replacement theology heresy. What part of "everlasting" you missing in Gen 17?
So how are they saved?
Their special relationship was dependent on and associated with God's covenant with them which they broke. That covenant has been completely replaced by the second covenant. It no longer is in force. the Jews have no special relationship with God.
ChrisTheSaved
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I am not a preterists.
I'm sorry but you are mistaken. Trans Jordan had little to nothing to do with Palestinian settlement. You are mistaking that with the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine. I think that was in 1947, the Trans-Jordan issue was way before all of this?
What scriptural basis?
It is replacement theology and is entirely Biblical. The first covenant with the Jews was under the Law. The second covenant with all is under Grace. Did you not understand what Paul said in Romans about being under the Law versus under Grace? We are no longer under the law. The "we" refers to all people not just Gentiles but also including Jews. We are now under Grace. You cite Genesis. God replaced that covenant with a new and much better one that is everlasting.
What scripture shows God abandoned His "everlasting" promise to Abraham.
Pretty large chunks of John's Gospel.
Chapter and verse. Particularly dealing with the breaking of the promise to Abraham.