How to defeat the ME heresy

You are correct that the Holy Spirit works through you after you are declared righteous. You have to be entered into the race before you can run. What you are saying though, is that if there is no working through you, then there is no imputed righteousness. We are merely understanding that there is a difference between imputed righteousness which is by faith and requires no works, and practical righteousness which is by faith working in you.

 

You are still trying so hard to prove a works based righteousness. The ONLY works that bring righteousness is that of Christ. Your works are rubbish.

 

The problem is, there are works. There is also a call for believers to have good works. And then you have that most maligned verse in scripture where James says a man is justified by works. You can ignore works, but they are still there. My doctrine says that you are saved freely by believing, regardless of works. Your doctrine says if I don't have works then my faith is not counted for righteousness.

 

Yep, crystal clear

 

Sure it does. Your one true gospel is upside down. You believe that it is hard to get saved, but once you get there it's easy street. My gospel says anyone can be saved by believing and there is no added on requirement of proving your faith by your works.

 

This is exactly what Tozer was talking about in the sermon that was posted in the other thread. Yes we are saved by grace through faith alone. But now we have taken that one truth and exalted it to the exclusion of all other truth. There is accountability for believers, and believe it or not, we will be judged for our works. Claiming grace through faith alone doesn't absolve us from the responsibility.

 

Just a request for information, please, J. Jump. I saw the question (asking whose righteousness gets you into the kingdom) on the Tootsie Roll thread (no idea what a tootsie roll is though ) I also saw on that thread your reply where you stated that you had already answered that question. And now in this new thread you say the same sort of thing again. There are so many threads on this board, some with a great number of messages on them. I certainly don't have the time to read them all, and I imagine that many others are in the same situation. Could you help us out by either giving a link to the message where you answered the question, or at the very least tell us which forum it was on, and give us the title of the thread? Thanks in anticipation.

 

I asked you to explain the gospel in the other thread, and you ignored me. Maybe there is a reason you avoid that question like the plague?

 

I should have know you'd have a link to a tootsie roll pop commercial. :laugh: :laugh:

 

I'll unwrap it for you. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

How does your's compare?

 

Thanks! We have similar sweets (sorry, "candies") over here, with different names though.