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I am not saying I will leave, I am just saying I want fellowship with men whom are ACTIVE and I have more in common. I need to go to another church for this.
I am not suggesting we leave our church, I am suggesting I get involved in a mens ministry elsewhere.
Oh man, why would he do a Fla ribs and beans?!? The guy lives in Colorado .....go fishing, hiking, ski, snow boarding, hunting ....you must have soooo many activities.
I do hiking and sight seeing. However I do not ski. Hunting and fishing? Did these as a kid and my wife has no interest in these so yes thats a great idea to find other men in other churches with this interest. I also had in mind to go to a ballgame but my wife does not have this interest, but the Zoo and an amusement park she may go. But certainly there has to be men in other churches with these interests as I am not aware of anyone in my church with these interests.
"A man that hath friends must shew himself friendly: and there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother" (Prov. 18:24).
You should do things with your wife to fellowship in small group, but you should also maybe join a men's only small group.
Maybe you could also start something new at your church for the other men who are also craving this. And others who don't know it yet.
Amen! The best way to make a friend is to be a friend.That's what my pastor told me thirty years ago when I asked him why people were so unfriendly to new visitors (which we were at the time).
Changed my life.
Might suggest that "activities" with other men should not be the aim of a believer. I think you need to approach it as a brother needing to know his brothers. One body with many members.
You need your brothers (and visa versa) for much more than an activity once in a while.
It might start with an activity, but you should have a goal that reaches far beyond "buddies" who go to a ballgame, fishing, etc. together every now and then.
Then again, it might start with several who simply have the common bond of being brothers in Christ, who don't necessarily have a lot of entertainment interests in common
Amen! The best way to make a friend is to be a friend.
Or join a softball league & to heck with the church. Personally I dont get anything from church.....not fellowship, not spirituality, not great commission so they are right, you need to grab the bull by the horns & do what is important. And perhaps your church in the final analysis is not your weekly gathering place. Perhaps its the both of you around a kitchen table praying & studying. and as you go through your neighborhood, you will meet with many (believe me many) who will tell you why conventional churches just never did it for them. Invite them to a bible study & maybe go out & get a pizza with them. Grow your friendships & continue inviting them to study sessions. Maybe just maybe you will find your planting something.
You should do things with your wife to fellowship in small group, but you should also maybe join a men's only small group.
Maybe you could also start something new at your church for the other men who are also craving this. And others who don't know it yet.
No, it is 100% true. It is also true that people become friends based on common interests. But if you are someone who follows Jesus with all of your heart, others who love Jesus will be drawn to you. Two of my friends from college 40 years ago are Japanese pastors with which I have little in common other than the ministry.This is only half true. People also bond based on common interests, common personalities, and such. The Law of the Group states that people act as such. I know in the church it should be different, but face the facts, the church has become just like the world.
I would never, ever say such things about my wife, even in my heart, much less to other people. You are to love your wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it. Christ would never insult the church.Exactly... However this is a process. She does not call the shots I do. I am gonna be gracious about how I do this, and she will whine and complain at first, but she will get over it. She was also hesitant with the Gideons meeting but she liked it.
:thumbsup:No, it is 100% true. It is also true that people become friends based on common interests. But if you are someone who follows Jesus with all of your heart, others who love Jesus will be drawn to you. Two of my friends from college 40 years ago are Japanese pastors with which I have little in common other than the ministry.
But your wife should be your best friend. There have been many times on the mission field when we were hours away from friends. Those times drew my wife and me close together, so that I'd truly rather be doing things with her than anyone in the world.
Now, if you make your wife your best friend, you will not say such vicious things about her in front of everyone on the Internet as you said in this post early in the thread:
I would never, ever say such things about my wife, even in my heart, much less to other people. You are to love your wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it. Christ would never insult the church.
No, it is 100% true. It is also true that people become friends based on common interests. But if you are someone who follows Jesus with all of your heart, others who love Jesus will be drawn to you. Two of my friends from college 40 years ago are Japanese pastors with which I have little in common other than the ministry.
But your wife should be your best friend. There have been many times on the mission field when we were hours away from friends. Those times drew my wife and me close together, so that I'd truly rather be doing things with her than anyone in the world.
Now, if you make your wife your best friend, you will not say such vicious things about her in front of everyone on the Internet as you said in this post early in the thread:
I would never, ever say such things about my wife, even in my heart, much less to other people. You are to love your wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it. Christ would never insult the church.
For a Christian husband to ignore Eph. 5 is inexcusable. He should read it and meditate on it over and over, and do his best to obey it.Exactly!!! (And thus why I posted some Eph 5 verses a couple of pages ago, which were ignored)
No, it is 100% true. It is also true that people become friends based on common interests. But if you are someone who follows Jesus with all of your heart, others who love Jesus will be drawn to you. Two of my friends from college 40 years ago are Japanese pastors with which I have little in common other than the ministry.
But your wife should be your best friend. There have been many times on the mission field when we were hours away from friends. Those times drew my wife and me close together, so that I'd truly rather be doing things with her than anyone in the world.
Now, if you make your wife your best friend, you will not say such vicious things about her in front of everyone on the Internet as you said in this post early in the thread:
I would never, ever say such things about my wife, even in my heart, much less to other people. You are to love your wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it. Christ would never insult the church.