Hugh Ross and Creation

[Yeshua1]

Oh, and BTW, even though I don't have it all "figured out" yet (and probably never will) I also do not have a problem with evolution. So you might as well keep me on the "bad" list.

do you hold to evolution as in macro then? Specicies able to mutate and tranform/chnge into etirely new ones over time?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

So you might as well keep me on the "bad" list.

Thought that was the "naughty" list. Or is Christmas long gone? :laugh:

 

[quantumfaith]

do you hold to evolution as in macro then? Specicies able to mutate and tranform/chnge into etirely new ones over time?

I certainly count it in the realm of great likelihood. I have "no problem" with evolution (or science). I do have a problem with "evolutionism" and "scientism".

 

[quantumfaith]

Thought that was the "naughty" list. Or is Christmas long gone? :laugh:

I stay on the "bad" list with most. But that is OK with me.

 

[Yeshua1]

I certainly count it in the realm of great likelihood. I have "no problem" with evolution (or science). I do have a problem with "evolutionism" and "scientism".

even though there is NO fossil record to support transisition species, and evolution like that never been observed?

How is THAT "real science?"

 

[quantumfaith]

even though there is NO fossil record to support transisition species, and evolution like that never been observed?

How is THAT "real science?"

There are equally numbers of debates within the evolutionary biological community. Many scientists "reject" the notion of "gradualism" within this theory and in fact have some strong evidence for BBB (biological big bangs). Much evidence exists for a few explosions of life along the history of science, darwininan "die hards" hold the Darwins insistence of gradualism. Genetice evidence and "evo-devo" have in recent years opened up further lines of evolutionary evidence. Here is a resource for some of the hominid fossil records.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html

I understand and greatly respect your rejection of all things evolutionary, but I do suggest that you might consider becoming more aware of science regarding it, if for no other reason, you may argue and defend your position, even more articulately.

I would suggest a good book (Reformed authors, Prof at Calvin College)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00710Y026/?tag=baptis04-20

 

[Yeshua1]

There are equally numbers of debates within the evolutionary biological community. Many scientists "reject" the notion of "gradualism" within this theory and in fact have some strong evidence for BBB (biological big bangs). Much evidence exists for a few explosions of life along the history of science, darwininan "die hards" hold the Darwins insistence of gradualism. Genetice evidence and "evo-devo" have in recent years opened up further lines of evolutionary evidence. Here is a resource for some of the hominid fossil records.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html

I understand and greatly respect your rejection of all things evolutionary, but I do suggest that you might consider becoming more aware of science regarding it, if for no other reason, you may argue and defend your position, even more articulately.

I would suggest a good book (Reformed authors, Prof at Calvin College)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00710Y026/?tag=baptis04-20

Do you hold, as Dr Ross does, that God created many species at different times in time line, but still were direct acts of His in creation, NOT using evolutionary processes over that time to make birds from dinosaurs let say?

 

[quantumfaith]

Do you hold, as Dr Ross does, that God created many species at different times in time line, but still were direct acts of His in creation, NOT using evolutionary processes over that time to make birds from dinosaurs let say?

I believe that ALL of creation, and in particular humanity, is a special creation of God.

 

[Yeshua1]

I believe that ALL of creation, and in particular humanity, is a special creation of God.

Don't you hold to God created and used evolution though in His creation?

 

[quantumfaith]

Don't you hold to God created and used evolution though in His creation?

Yes, I completely convinced that God created. Also I am reasonably convinced that evolution is part of the equation that God used to create humankind and other life.

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes, I completely convinced that God created. Also I am reasonably convinced that evolution is part of the equation that God used to create humankind and other life.

So you would hold to us being evolved from lower primates over time then?

 

[quantumfaith]

So you would hold to us being evolved from lower primates over time then?

I think the probability that "we" and primates are closely related, and yes I think humanity evolved in some fashion. I am not educated, nor intelligent enough to scientifically describe precisely how. I am much more comfortable landing somewhere in the ID position.