I must clarify

[Arbo]

See the problem is it Ain't BRAGGING IF IT"S TRUE!....I think I am convicting a few on here...

Statements like these are why people discount you as arrogant.

 

[Matt22:37-39]

See right there you all took what 5% of the whole message negated much truth and ones own feelings and opinions, but try to find a negative albeit so small.

Now who is arrogant, lacks empathy, judgmental, hypocrites?

Well it isn't hard to tell who gets convicted on these boards....:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Don]

See right there you all took what 5% of the whole message negated much truth and ones own feelings and opinions, but try to find a negative albeit so small.

Now who is arrogant, lacks empathy, judgmental, hypocrites?

Well it isn't hard to tell who gets convicted on these boards....:smilewinkgrin:

Perhaps you should try *not* posting the 5%, so we could all focus on the other 95%? Or are you saying that God is leading you to write the parts that are prideful?

In "communication," there are several parts. Message, sender, receiver, media, feedback, and filters. The filters have a tendency sometimes to dilute the message. Lose the filters, improve the communication.

If someone tells you they're offended by something, what's your Christian duty?

 

[Oldtimer]

See right there you all took what 5% of the whole message negated much truth and ones own feelings and opinions, but try to find a negative albeit so small.

Now who is arrogant, lacks empathy, judgmental, hypocrites?

Well it isn't hard to tell who gets convicted on these boards....:smilewinkgrin:

Do you agree that each of us should allow the Holy Spirit guide our lives, guide our words, and even our thoughts? That He is our teacher?

Sister, I pray that when He teaches you what true humility is all about that you won't lash out at Him, as well.

I can't speak for anyone else, only for myself, in witness to our Saviour and Lord.

That said, I suspect that most, if not all of the posters speaking out to you, have been taught by Him, to understand when pride, boastfulness, arrogance, etc are present and have to be purged from our hearts. This lesson is not easy, when He confronts us with His truth. Not yours, not mine, or anyone else's "truth". HIS TRUTH.

I pray that He will lead you to a very basic and simple understanding. One that applies to me.

I have nothing, I am nothing to boast about. All I have, all I am is His. To give Him all the glory, all the credit, for any feeble accomplishment that may come about in this earthly existance. I am the particles of the dust from which He created me. Nothing more.

I pray that any time, that pride or anything else tempts me to rise from that dust, He will convict me, once again, to stay right where I belong. In the dust at His feet.

 

[Yeshua1]

See right there you all took what 5% of the whole message negated much truth and ones own feelings and opinions, but try to find a negative albeit so small.

Now who is arrogant, lacks empathy, judgmental, hypocrites?

Well it isn't hard to tell who gets convicted on these boards....:smilewinkgrin:

Do you feel that God has made a prophetess or something, that you have some important truths from God to give to us then?

 

[Matt22:37-39]

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"I think you guys are reading way too much into my posts lol...for one I am not prideful or angry...you are misunderstanding my written words....if you knew me in person you would be surprise at my gentleness and humble spirit..Whoops there I go bragging again...but it's true...

See, I would believe what you have to say IF, and I mean a big IF...any of you who are putting me down ever lifted me up on the forum..but you haven't.

You see I have said some really sound things...and profound at that (I've been told so, so don't even go there) and I'm not sure I can recall many if any AGREEING with the truth that I present...surely not all I say is wrong? the fact you say nothing nice in regard to all the threads I post proves I'm not the problem

I had a wise counselor many years ago say, "find something someone said that was true and acknowledge it before you give them a negative"...a pastor once said..."people are able to swallow your opinions if it is sandwiched well...give them some good news first"...and finally "no one cares how much you know till they know how much you care"

See, what you all don't get is my heart...I honestly care about people, but I care about God's truth more...so if you don't like me, think I'm arrogant, or whatever, it really doesn't matter....I know otherwise and so do those who really know me.

I am sure I am in good company like many who can speak with authority because they know where their authority has been obtained and from whom.

Just because I don't have some kind of LABEL on my jacket, doesn't mean what i am saying isn't true...and I know for some the TRUTH hurts...so either way as long as it is out there what do i care what anyone thinks of me?

I'm way too SECURE for all that...whoops there I go bragging again...like I said it ain't bragging if it's TRUE..."

 

[Matt22:37-39]

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PS….To the post above. I find it rather laughable, that one cannot have “Low Self Esteem” or there is something wrong them, why don't they straighten up?…nor can they be “Realistic About Their Strengths” and acknowledge them or they are being too proud....either way you can’t win…damned if you do dammed if you don’t.…I did something 7 years ago that Dr. Phil said in his new book “Life Code” everyone should do, (according to him I am a WINNER) and that was I made a list (must have been in counseling) of all my strengths and weakness. These same strengths and weaknesses also matched those who knew me we well (including one my ex and I did on each other) who did character letters for my divorce case. Anyway, What I know and what everyone else said about me in a particular area was that I am a realist and maybe even an idealist as well. I take things for what they are not what I wish them to be. I am honest about WHO I AM and I’m not afraid to say so and anyone who has read me long enough knows this about me…what you see is what you get….good and bad….I have nothing to hide or be proud of….Ok, I do but I try not to…. All that I have and all that I am came from God…He made me and He has sustained me. Part of that sustaining has a lot to do with who I am today and why I speak the way I do.

Unlike many I see around me…I didn’t have a stable home, I didn’t have any parents and I had many, who loved me, I didn’t have anyone who supported me, I didn’t have anyone who protected me, (thank God never sexual abuse) I didn't have anyone who nurtured me, I didn’t even have anyone that PRAISED ME!...crap I’m crying…need to take a break.

OK, I’m going to just stick with the PRAISE one and let’s see how that has affected me?...I don’t know about you, as it seems to have been a generational thing, but nobody who had me was good at giving PRAISE….the only “Slap on the Back” I got, also hit my face, my legs, arms, and basically anywhere my dad’s and step moms instruments in hand would land on me out of rage…for what? Nothing really....and OMG, the verbal abuse and put downs were constant not only at home but at school as well…why?... because I was “Different”….funny, I’m still the same person and I was and still am getting it? I guess people would rather focus on the negative way more than the positive…so sad.

Ironically, I got the curse my step mom always threatened me with…”I Hope You Have One Just Like You” well guess what?...I did. And I never treated him the way I was treated. He was disciplined, in love not anger and it was always a “process”…anyway, I was very athlete growing up, achieving awards most didn’t and in many kinds of sports…”#1 player, most athletic, fastest runner”…but you know what, my parents never went to my games or practices (they were glad to just get rid of me) nor did they encouraged any of my talents, whether it was sports, music, art, or animals…I had access to these things, but I did them and accomplished them ALONE!..or at least it feels like I did and I have no recollection at all. My grandma did say, I could have gone to the Olympics if I had ONLY been guided and encouraged. Who knows how I would have turned out? But I guess God had other plans, or like some wise person said today….we don’t always know how God is using us, probably more than we even realize. I guess being a tangible person…I want to see fruit, I want to see evidence…even if I have to find it within myself.

I say all that come to a point…I have lived a life of self protection, of self awareness and of others, due to much isolated loneliness, of much abuse, of much injustice and so much more that if I didn’t remind myself constantly of all that God has given me, or how He made me, or why I am still here in spite of it all….I would go NUTS and be dead….I feel I have NO purpose sometimes, that no one cares what I have to say or do?…God isn’t using me, my kids are gone they don’t need me anymore, no more successful race horses, no more husband to give me nice complements (although lots from weird guy renters) if I didn’t get “Kudos” at volleyball I don’t know what I’d do?...I’m sure I’d be fine. So if I come off arrogant, it may be because I am grasping at straws and just being REAL…I’m throwing stuff on the wall to see if it sticks…what am I suppose to be doing with my life at soon to be 50?

“Where There Is No Hope The People Perish”….For a long time now this is how I feel. I don’t want to go home, but why should I be here?...I think about it all the time…it is a constant struggle to stay focused on the bigger picture….I know deep down what that bigger picture is, it has been revealed to me, whether others reject it or not. And just like Noah I have to keep on building….but the only way I can do that is by being truthful about who I am, good and bad…my goal and hope is that others may learn from my life so it doesn’t seem so wasted. If this offends anyone I am truly sorry

 

[Matt22:37-39]

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You guys need to look in the mirror and see how you have scared many away from this board....I was here many years ago and this board had lots of traffic, it also had lots of dissension as well and many were hurt because of it and left or got banned for speaking up...looks like nothing has changed...I pray for you all!

:wavey:

 

[Yeshua1]

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You guys need to look in the mirror and see how you have scared many away from this board....I was here many years ago and this board had lots of traffic, it also had lots of dissension as well and many were hurt because of it and left or got banned for speaking up...looks like nothing has changed...I pray for you all!

:wavey:

why were people scared away?

 

[Arbo]

If one person came to me and tried to gently point out an issue that they thought I had, I'd probably take it with a grain of salt (depending on who it was). If multiple people pointed to the same thing, I hope that I would take it more seriously.

To be honest, and part of me cringes because I know it sounds bad; though you have some excellent points to be made, the lack of humility in which you make them makes me wonder if you aren't playing some type of trolling-points game. I hope I am wrong.

 

[Arbo]

why were people scared away?

Like any other message board site, there is turnover. In the 2 1/2 years that I have been here, I have not noticed any mass exodus, nor anything atypical from what happens on other sites.

 

[Matt22:37-39]

why were people scared away?

Stats don't lie, nor does experience, and a quick google search.

The problem for some of you is people see better than you think, so just because someone doesn't say something doesn't mean they don't know what is really going on. I find this to be true when I google a subject and come across a forum and read the exchange only to quickly see who is right and who is wrong.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these forums aren't designed more as a satire from those who grew up under such abusive legalism? This often crosses my mind....maybe because of a particular fundamental website that obviously does...can't remember the name of it? Anyway, have fun fighting with each other, it isn't going to work on me...


:wavey:

 

[Don]

Stats don't lie, nor does experience, and a quick google search.

The problem for some of you is people see better than you think, so just because someone doesn't say something doesn't mean they don't know what is really going on. I find this to be true when I google a subject and come across a forum and read the exchange only to quickly see who is right and who is wrong.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these forums aren't designed more as a satire from those who grew up under such abusive legalism? This often crosses my mind....maybe because of a particular fundamental website that obviously does...can't remember the name of it? Anyway, have fun fighting with each other, it isn't going to work on me...


:wavey:

Does that mean you're leaving?

I wish you wouldn't. I wish you would post some more, in both "your" threads and others'; and I wish you would engage in discussion with people, and provide the opportunity to reason out the scriptures with each other.

 

[Yeshua1]

Stats don't lie, nor does experience, and a quick google search.

The problem for some of you is people see better than you think, so just because someone doesn't say something doesn't mean they don't know what is really going on. I find this to be true when I google a subject and come across a forum and read the exchange only to quickly see who is right and who is wrong.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these forums aren't designed more as a satire from those who grew up under such abusive legalism? This often crosses my mind....maybe because of a particular fundamental website that obviously does...can't remember the name of it? Anyway, have fun fighting with each other, it isn't going to work on me...


:wavey:

Can you qualify " abusive legalism?"

 

[annsni]

This thread has been extremely enlightening.

 

[Matt22:37-39]

Does that mean you're leaving?

I wish you wouldn't. I wish you would post some more, in both "your" threads and others'; and I wish you would engage in discussion with people, and provide the opportunity to reason out the scriptures with each other.

Nope not leaving, I do see your point though and may be why there is some confusion.

Until recently I didn't have time to be on forums and I know how they can get addicting and time consuming so I just posted some of my thoughts on different subjects on 2 forums to see what people thought...is there something here in what I am saying, what God has revealed to me. I didn't do it to be arrogant, or to think I know more than others, I do it for a few reasons.

1) Cause I'm trying to see if what I say is something people need, it has helped me in my life and understanding. I honestly want to help people, I've always been that way. I hang on to the morsels that are given to me once in awhile they are what keep me going. On my FB, I know who is "following" me even though most do not respond I know they are getting something out of what i write or they wouldn't keep coming back to get fed....entertainment, hmmmm, maybe?

2) I do think much of what I share is what we need to get back to....not only as a society but especially as believers and the church...my burden is for the church. For the church to Glorify God, not that I always do, but I do try.

3) Sometimes I'm feeling insecure in what I present because I feel much of it lands on deaf ears, but in my heart and mind I know otherwise...I do not want to listen and believe the devil, so I am trying to get reassurance that God is working through me...and the devil is a liar.

Hope that helps you see my motives better.

 

[Matt22:37-39]

Can you qualify " abusive legalism?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

 

[Yeshua1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

I meant examples on the board?

 

[Matt22:37-39]

I meant examples on the board?

Yeah I don't have time for that... like I said a quick google search reveals much...

 

[Arbo]

I meant examples on the board?

Yeah I don't have time for that... like I said a quick google search reveals much...

This thread has been extremely enlightening.

The more posts in this thread that I read, the more I agree.