I PREDICT: Closing Gitmo Opens Door to Another 9/11

[StefanM]

What countries?

Russia, for one. Now, I don't trust Russia at all, but I think we should avoid unnecessary public offense. Secret actions are another matter.

 

[Revmitchell]

Russia, for one. Now, I don't trust Russia at all, but I think we should avoid unnecessary public offense. Secret actions are another matter.

Sorry but Russia is only out for their own. They have very little concern other than to be a world power once again. Name more.

 

[StefanM]

Sorry but Russia is only out for their own. They have very little concern other than to be a world power once again. Name more.

European countries like France and Germany also come into play.

I'm not saying we should placate terrorists. I'm simply saying we shouldn't spout off meaningless labels.

 

[Revmitchell]

European countries like France and Germany also come into play.

I'm not saying we should placate terrorists. I'm simply saying we shouldn't spout off meaningless labels.

And what determines "meaningless labels"? France and Germany were involved in illegal deals with Saddam which by passed the food for oil program intended to take care of the Iraqi people. They are a primary reason for the failure of the sanctions and cease fire agreement. They have no credibility. You can be sure their motive is based on trying to survived because of their failed marxist policies.

 

[StefanM]

And what determines "meaningless labels"? France and Germany were involved in illegal deals with Saddam which by passed the food for oil program intended to take care of the Iraqi people. They are a primary reason for the failure of the sanctions and cease fire agreement. They have no credibility. You can be sure their motive is based on trying to survived because of their failed marxist policies.

I'm not saying that they have any credibility. In diplomacy, I say trust no one. However, I think it unwise to inflame negative sentiment when doing so provides no significant benefit.

 

[Revmitchell]

I'm not saying that they have any credibility. In diplomacy, I say trust no one. However, I think it unwise to inflame negative sentiment when doing so provides no significant benefit.

Then no move would ever be made. Such aspirations would never come about. What you want is impossible with or without terms. Not very realistic.

 

[LadyEagle]

We're the Big Satan to most of the world because of Bush's policies. I believe Obama will change that and we'll actually have some allies again. Many countries will still be our enemies but we don't have to antagonize them by calling them the "Axis of Evil."

We were the Big Satan and Israel the Little Satan in the islamic world long before GW Bush took office. It helps to know the facts before making statements out of ignorance.

 

[just-want-peace]

We were the Big Satan and Israel the Little Satan in the islamic world long before GW Bush took office. It helps to know the facts before making statements out of ignorance.

Bolded Mine.

Since when do facts matter to the confirmed BDS crowd??

 

[billwald]

If we can't trust God to protect us then what's the continuing big deal to keep "in God we trust" on the money? Does God take bribes?

 

[righteousdude2]

Yeah, You're Right On!

I'm with you. I didn't vote for Obama, nor do I support many of his positions. On this one, however, I think he made a wise choice. We aren't going to go easy on terrorists; we are just shutting down a prison that hindered our internal relations and credibility.

sure shut down the prisoner-of-war camp and put these guys in our local neighborhood prisons, than when their friends try to break them out, hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians will be in "harms" way!

Yeah, right, that is a fantastic idea?:BangHead:

Pastor Paul:type:

 

[righteousdude2]

And We'll Remain the BIG Satan with Obama

We're the Big Satan to most of the world because of Bush's policies. I believe Obama will change that and we'll actually have some allies again. Many countries will still be our enemies but we don't have to antagonize them by calling them the "Axis of Evil."

Nothing Obama does will change how the hate-mongers of this world see the USA. There has always been those individuals and countries that hate the USA. That is a fact. Clinton tried hard to appease the feelings of those hate-mongers, and people still hated us.

Getting rid of Gitmo. Making America more hospitable toward its enemies and captives, will change no hate. Being Politically correct and allowing our form of justice to protect the rights of these evil doers will not change their hate.

All this does is makes us weak, and more vulnerable for a major attack, with a huge loss of human life.

This is war, and it must be fought on the same grounds that the enemy uses against us. Anything less, makes us vulnerable and weak!

WAKE UP AMERICA:wavey:

 

[KenH]

Getting rid of Gitmo. Making America more hospitable toward its enemies and captives

How will finally bringing these prisoners to justice weaken America?

 

[StefanM]

Getting rid of Gitmo. Making America more hospitable toward its enemies and captives, will change no hate. Being Politically correct and allowing our form of justice to protect the rights of these evil doers will not change their hate.

Ok, so why don't we just summarily execute them?

The test of justice is not found in our treatment of the innocent but of the guilty.

 

[LadyEagle]

Ok, so why don't we just summarily execute them?

The test of justice is not found in our treatment of the innocent but of the guilty.

If we are truly fighting a war on terror (note the New President has never acknowledged this), then we should just execute them and get it over with. I personally don't think we glean much intel from feeding, housing, and providing medical and dental care for terrorists. We never should have taken them alive from the battlefield, just mowed them down. No Gitmo, No Abu Garib, just dead terrorists.

 

[dcorbett]

Well, conservatives keep saying that former President Bush kept us safe since 9/11. So what about 9/11/2001? Does he get a mulligan for that?

No, give that one to Clinton. He had tons of intel, but he didn't do anything with it or about it....and he didn't pass on what he knew when Bush took office.

 

[KenH]

No, give that one to Clinton.

Yeah, that figures. Some right-wingers have a hard time admitting the truth about their heroes.

 

[LadyEagle]

Check it out if you're brave enough, click on the first one about Human Rights:

http://www.thethirdjihad.com/exclusive_clips_test.php


Not that it will make any difference to some here.

 

[dcorbett]

Yeah, that figures. Some right-wingers have a hard time admitting the truth about their heroes.

No, that is not right winger talk. That is fact....the record will show it.
Clinton minimized the threat - didn't think the U.S.S. Cole was any big deal.

 

[JustChristian]

Nothing Obama does will change how the hate-mongers of this world see the USA. There has always been those individuals and countries that hate the USA. That is a fact. Clinton tried hard to appease the feelings of those hate-mongers, and people still hated us.

Getting rid of Gitmo. Making America more hospitable toward its enemies and captives, will change no hate. Being Politically correct and allowing our form of justice to protect the rights of these evil doers will not change their hate.

All this does is makes us weak, and more vulnerable for a major attack, with a huge loss of human life.

This is war, and it must be fought on the same grounds that the enemy uses against us. Anything less, makes us vulnerable and weak!

WAKE UP AMERICA:wavey:

Do you remember when we had strong allies, e.g. NATO. I would say we only had one during the last 5 years (the U.K.) and I'm not so sure about them after Tony Blair left office. I doubt we'll ever be that close to Iran, Iraq, N. Korea, Russia, etc. but gee can't we be friendly with the U.K., Canada, France, Germany, etc? I'm sick and tired of the Bush World Supremacy objective and the rest of the world is too.

 

[JustChristian]

President Bush was in office for less than 8 months by 9/11/01. It's not invalid to cite the lack of terrorist attacks in the US during the rest of Bush's presidency, but liberal hatred of Bush overlooks that fact.

Bush did a lot of stupid things, but give credit where it is due.

Bush is responsible for what happened during his administration. If we had another major terrorist strike in the U.S. tomorrow wouldn't you blame it on Obama? Or would it be Bush's fault?