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I think John 9:39-41 says it all...

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by skypair, Nov 2, 2007.

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  1. Brother Bob

    Brother Bob New Member

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    I believe they announce an "open church door" to anyone who feels that God has forgiven them of their sins.

    BBob,
     
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  2. skypair

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    Pinoy -- that is so true. If I am wrong, I condemn myself all the more before God, don't I? And I am not the best Christian -- far from it.

    But can you show that I don't have it all figured out? Can you show that Calvinists don't claim to have the capability to "see" before they even have been given a "spiritual nature?" Cause that is what the accusation is and Jesus made it very plain -- if you claim you see, you are yet blind. The fact that they believe they see first (per 1Cr 2:14, etal.) is merely a rejection/denial of God's way of giving sight --- through obeying the call to repentance and faith. God gives sight to the blind, not to the seeing.

    skypair
     
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  3. reformedbeliever

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    In your faulty opinion.
     
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  4. reformedbeliever

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    You are intentionally bearing false witness. Misrepresentation, especially after being told so many times, is intentional false witness. You need to repent.

    Liars shall not inherit the kingdom of God. False witnesses are liars. Those who practice such sin are not of God. So there you have it.
     
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  5. Brother Bob

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    I did not say they gave invitations to Salvation. They announce an "open door" for those who feel that God has forgiven them of their sins, and want a home with that particular church. That is a big difference that "inviting to Salvation".

    The do as we do, announce an "open door" to those who feel that God has already forgiven them, and want a home with us.



    BBob,
     
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  6. npetreley

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    I know of this Calvinist preacher who gave a beautiful sermon on election. Not only was it on election, but he characterized election as the sum and substance of all theology, and the firm foundation on which our salvation rests.

    Now, skypair -- let's have a look at the way his sermon ends. Pay careful attention, skypair, so that you will be convicted as guilty every time you continue to spread your wicked lies...

     
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  7. skypair

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    Sorry -- I guess you haven't seen what I've seen.

    Have a delightful day.

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  8. reformedbeliever

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    Do you call this repenting of your sin? You are being called on it sky.
     
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  9. npetreley

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    Odd how so many free-willers can't seem to exercise their will when it comes to admitting they're wrong about something. Their will isn't nearly as free as they think, obviously.
     
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  10. skypair

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    No comment. Ooops, that was a comment, wasn't it. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    skypair
     
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  11. skypair

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    npetrely --- I only have the "sorrow of this world." Wish that I had not tried to demonstrate the truth of Jesus words before y'all.

    But I will be eternally grateful for the mocking I receive here on account of the truth.

    skypair
     
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  12. Helen

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    Reading this thread. Gentlemen, if someone who did not know which theology was correct and was simply looking for which showed a Christlike character, I'm afraid Calvinism would come off a far loser.

    I thought it was illegal on BB to call someone a liar, by the way...
     
    #32 Helen, Nov 3, 2007
  13. Alex Quackenbush

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    "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved." The simplicity and clarity of the sequence of salvation is reduced to its most essential elements and reality. One believes and then...they are saved.

    It is clear, quite clear that the passage does not say:

    Believe after you are saved or After you are saved, believe.

    No, God does not play games, people do. Here the communication of God to humanity is as simple as it will ever get. The only cause for misinterpretation here is the unwillingness to accept what God has declared most plainly.

    "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."
     
    #33 Alex Quackenbush, Nov 3, 2007
  14. Helen

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    Thank you, Alex, and amen.
     
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  15. skypair

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    Here's a quote from Aaron on another thread:

    This is Calvinism, right? Do you think this man believes that he "sees?" Does he?

    skypair
     
    #35 skypair, Nov 3, 2007
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