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I Was Wrong To Not Vote For Trump

Yeshua1

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Here is one of the fruits of Trumpism, you cannot disagree with Trump without Trumpists claiming that you embrace corruption (aka, the Swamp) and that they are not real Republicans.

Regarding “the Swamp,” have you been paying attention to Scott Pruitt’s dozen or more scandals at the EPA? Our President doesn’t seem to have an issue with it. Seems that the Swamp is just fine as long as it is stocked with HIS rats and alligators.


Like many social theorists, you boil everything down to the economic prosperity of the nation, assuming that that is all there is to our country. However, the real America has historically been a nation of high ideals and principles of the rule of law and justice for the oppressed. While the United States has consistently come up sort of fully living up to our national ideals and calling, we have been steadily advancing toward liberty and justice for all, with every man and woman equal in the eyes of the law. We have embraced freedom in the Bill of Rights and embraced diversity of thought and action which has strengthened our national character and made us stronger by the testing of ideas, discarding the ones that do not work and embracing new strategies for the common good.

The “America First” rhetoric is a throwback to the isolationist impulses of the past that undermined the security of liberty around the world and our own national security.

Trump’s America First policy is short-sighted, proudly ignorant of history, and will lead our nation into economic ruin. We are throwing away everything we have gained over the last 70 years.
What greater right is there than to right to life? Would you rather have someone who saw abortion as a ok?
 

InTheLight

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The “America First” rhetoric is a throwback to the isolationist impulses of the past that undermined the security of liberty around the world and our own national security.

No, it's turning back this idea of "world citizenship" and the idea that the United States is about on par with Estonia, or Turkey.

How can you extol the virtues of America being a place of high ideals and principles of the rule of law and then scoff at the idea of putting America first?

Trump’s America First policy is short-sighted, proudly ignorant of history

It's not the late 1930's anymore. Putting America first means just that--the concerns of our nation come first and we're not going to be thinking about what might happen to Ecuador before we do something. How can you say Trump is being isolationist when he's had a summit with Kim Jong Un and has one scheduled with Putin?

and will lead our nation into economic ruin.

We are doing the best economically as we have in about 30 years.

We are throwing away everything we have gained over the last 70 years.

Throwing away paralysis on foreign policy? Great
Throwing away world citizenship? Awesome.
Bring it on.
 

Yeshua1

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Here is one of the fruits of Trumpism, you cannot disagree with Trump without Trumpists claiming that you embrace corruption (aka, the Swamp) and that they are not real Republicans.

Regarding “the Swamp,” have you been paying attention to Scott Pruitt’s dozen or more scandals at the EPA? Our President doesn’t seem to have an issue with it. Seems that the Swamp is just fine as long as it is stocked with HIS rats and alligators.


Like many social theorists, you boil everything down to the economic prosperity of the nation, assuming that that is all there is to our country. However, the real America has historically been a nation of high ideals and principles of the rule of law and justice for the oppressed. While the United States has consistently come up sort of fully living up to our national ideals and calling, we have been steadily advancing toward liberty and justice for all, with every man and woman equal in the eyes of the law. We have embraced freedom in the Bill of Rights and embraced diversity of thought and action which has strengthened our national character and made us stronger by the testing of ideas, discarding the ones that do not work and embracing new strategies for the common good.

The “America First” rhetoric is a throwback to the isolationist impulses of the past that undermined the security of liberty around the world and our own national security.

Trump’s America First policy is short-sighted, proudly ignorant of history, and will lead our nation into economic ruin. We are throwing away everything we have gained over the last 70 years.
You mean the "advancements gained" like babies killed in the millions, gay/lesbian/transgendered thown in our face, no right to disobey with liberal ways, break up of black families, the deterioration of big cities, the weakness dealing with Islamic terrorists, allowing illegals to run roughshod, lost jobs. loss of respect for God and authority figures, Christianity and religious rights violated, prayer and bible out of schools, are those the advancements you speak off?
 

Covenanter

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What greater right is there than to right to life? Would you rather have someone who saw abortion as a ok?

It's praiseworthy that that the unborn are protected while in the womb.
BUT
What rights have those born into poverty after they are born?
 

Yeshua1

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It's praiseworthy that that the unborn are protected while in the womb.
BUT
What rights have those born into poverty after they are born?
They would be much better served by biblical ways to get out of there than the liberal just throw big money at it!
 

InTheLight

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It's praiseworthy that that the unborn are protected while in the womb.
BUT
What rights have those born into poverty after they are born?

Fully covered by the Constitution of the United States, just like anyone else.

There is no right to housing, no right to an income, no right to health care in the US.
 

HankD

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I voted for the Don with caution
I like what he's done so far.
He is not a religion.
He's not a savior.
He was simply the best choice at the time.

10 Signs that you followed after an Obamination

Indeed - Obama is still leading from behind (closed doors).

Maxine is his press secretary.

My opinion of course. :Cool
 
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HankD

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Like a war? God only knows... but I view war as a pathway to socialist distruction. If he can keep the economy growing without that war threat, deport the illegals and raise the dead, he has my vote.
War is inevitable.

With Trump as president we at least have a chance of winning.

our 700 billion budget amount for the military this year has Putin and Jinping both quaking in their boots.
 

Wingman68

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War is inevitable.

With Trump as president we at least have a chance of winning.

our 700 billion budget amount for the military this year has Putin and Jinping both quaking in their boots.
The ROE imposed by the o administration were designed to handcuff the ability of our military to do it’s job, thus diminishing moral, & putting our guys at unnecessary risk. That won’t happen going forward.
 

Wingman68

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Here is one of the fruits of Trumpism, you cannot disagree with Trump without Trumpists claiming that you embrace corruption (aka, the Swamp) and that they are not real Republicans.

Regarding “the Swamp,” have you been paying attention to Scott Pruitt’s dozen or more scandals at the EPA? Our President doesn’t seem to have an issue with it. Seems that the Swamp is just fine as long as it is stocked with HIS rats and alligators.


Like many social theorists, you boil everything down to the economic prosperity of the nation, assuming that that is all there is to our country. However, the real America has historically been a nation of high ideals and principles of the rule of law and justice for the oppressed. While the United States has consistently come up sort of fully living up to our national ideals and calling, we have been steadily advancing toward liberty and justice for all, with every man and woman equal in the eyes of the law. We have embraced freedom in the Bill of Rights and embraced diversity of thought and action which has strengthened our national character and made us stronger by the testing of ideas, discarding the ones that do not work and embracing new strategies for the common good.

The “America First” rhetoric is a throwback to the isolationist impulses of the past that undermined the security of liberty around the world and our own national security.

Trump’s America First policy is short-sighted, proudly ignorant of history, and will lead our nation into economic ruin. We are throwing away everything we have gained over the last 70 years.
Like so many wordsmiths, you keep talking, and talking, but talking doesn’t make you right. ‘America Last’ is my take from you on this latest spin doctoring. Too bad you weren’t born to a more progressive country like the UK, or Germany, then you wouldn’t have to endure our Duty, Honor, Country mantra.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I’m sorry Mr Baptist Believer but your post might explain why you spend so much time here trying to convince everyone that you’re a centrist.
 

Benjamin

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I voted for Carson in the primaries [I later realized that Carson wouldn’t have had enough fight in him to overtake the media war machine and probably had lost to the propaganda against him] but when I saw the writing on the wall should the GOP lose I started reading between the lines about who Trump really was and all logic pointed to that he was BY FAR the best and most rational choice to support my values.

Not to gloat, but, My Top 7:

#1 I was right about Trump’s change of heart to be against abortion was a truth.

#2 I was right that Trump would not backslide on his choice for SCOTUS.

#3 I was right that Trump could win, and although unprovable I believe I was right that he was our best and perhaps only hope to stop the progressive agenda in its tracks.

#4 I was right that Trump was sincere in his efforts to protect the border and build the wall.

#5 I was right that Trump would defend Christian values.

#6 I was right that Trump’s economical plans had great potential.

#7 I was right that Trump’s foreign policies would be rational, tough and effective.

…so needless to say I’m very pleased how things are going and consider him a great blessing to our country.
 

just-want-peace

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I voted for Carson in the primaries [I later realized that Carson wouldn’t have had enough fight in him to overtake the media war machine and probably had lost to the propaganda against him] but when I saw the writing on the wall should the GOP lose I started reading between the lines about who Trump really was and all logic pointed to that he was BY FAR the best and most rational choice to support my values.

Not to gloat, but, My Top 7:

#1 I was right about Trump’s change of heart to be against abortion was a truth.

#2 I was right that Trump would not backslide on his choice for SCOTUS.

#3 I was right that Trump could win, and although unprovable I believe I was right that he was our best and perhaps only hope to stop the progressive agenda in its tracks.

#4 I was right that Trump was sincere in his efforts to protect the border and build the wall.

#5 I was right that Trump would defend Christian values.

#6 I was right that Trump’s economical plans had great potential.

#7 I was right that Trump’s foreign policies would be rational, tough and effective.

…so needless to say I’m very pleased how things are going and consider him a great blessing to our country.

Whilst I agree with all, I think #3 is the KEY to the blessing of his victory!!
Not my first pick either, but once he clinched the R nomination, voting for him was a no-brainer - considering the only options:
1) voting for any other, or
2) not voting at all

I am thankful to God that He led enough folks to vote for T as the R nominee in spite of my very strong misgivings against him initially. Needless to say, there are times I LOVE to be proven wrong, & this was one of the highlights of such!
 

carpro

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I voted for Trump in order to stop Hillary from being elected. Period. He was the only one that had a chance against her.

I didn't expect it to turn out so well, and won't take any bows for it. But, sakes alive, am I glad I did and he did!!!!
 

Salty

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#3 I was right that Trump could win, and although unprovable I believe I was right that he was our best and perhaps

The one thing Americians need to do is realize that it is very hard for someone on the extreme (left or right) to be elected. Reagan in 1980 was an exception, which does not happen often.

Even Ike (1952) was a moderate
 

Scarlett O.

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I voted for Trump. Warily, nervously, and painfully. There are many good things happening and while I am relieved and plan on voting for him again, bar something terrible....

...I still wish he would get off of Twitter and stop any and all insult-hurling at liberals who make fools of themselves trying to discredit him.

It makes him look bad, IMHO.
 
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