If I'm an american i will support this candidate....

[Dagwood]

I believe it is doing something that Christ would not do. Like support the murder of babies.

God Bless! :thumbs:

Right, someone disagrees with you and automatically they are for the "murder of babies." Talk about a red herring!

 

[KenH]

I am refering to all of God's Word beginning with the book of Genesis. It isn't an exclusive Christian rule given only to the church.

My immediate superior at work is a woman. Two levels above her is another woman. Are you suggesting that I rebel against them?

 

[Dagwood]

My immediate superior at work is a woman. Two levels above her is another woman. Are you suggesting that I rebel against them?

If you don't, it's probably because you support people who murder babies, at least according to some here!

 

[steaver]

My immediate superior at work is a woman. Two levels above her is another woman. Are you suggesting that I rebel against them?

Rebel against them?

You can quit or you can stay and take the orders. Either way you have not sinned. Unless of course you are responsible in part for placing them in authority positions over men.

Right, someone disagrees with you and automatically they are for the "murder of babies." Talk about a red herring!

I don't believe i ever suggested any such thing. Disagreeing with me does not equate to participating in murdering babies. Supporting those who promote the murdering of babies is. I am just a preacher of the Word. I know some would like to stone me and shut me up, but it is sad when fellow Christians choose apathy to the innocent lives being torn apart til dead over their pocket books.

God Bless! :thumbs:

ps. you missed answering this question.......

Do you have a passage of scripture that states women are to rule over the men?

 

[KenH]

Unless of course you are responsible in part for placing them in authority positions over men.

If I did that that would mean I was their boss.

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with women being in positions of authority outside of the church. I don't believe that the Bible says it is wrong in secular affairs.

Yes, I know we can argue over this from now till Doomsday and never reach agreement.

 

[steaver]

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with women being in positions of authority outside of the church. I don't believe that the Bible says it is wrong in secular affairs.

Yes, I know we can argue over this from now till Doomsday and never reach agreement.

Interesting position. Do you have a passage of scripture from the Bible that supports this?

Is God's Word for all His creation, lost or saved, or need only the saved honor it?

I see a troubling seperation of church and everyday life with many Christians. I don't find this taught in the scriptures, do you?

God Bless! :thumbs:

 

[KenH]

Please provide Scripture to supprt your position that a woman cannot be an elected official in government or a supervisor in the workplace.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Rebel against them?

You can quit or you can stay and take the orders. Either way you have not sinned. Unless of course you are responsible in part for placing them in authority positions over men.

So you would deny an earned promotion to a woman because of her gender? That would be totally illegal and immoral. I sincerely hope you do not supervise people, for your sake and theirs. You would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

 

[ByGracethroughFaith]

I am refering to all of God's Word beginning with the book of Genesis. It isn't an exclusive Christian rule given only to the church.

Do you have a passage of scripture that states women are to rule over the men?

God Bless! :thumbs:

Here is one, but it happens as a judgment not a reward.

Isa 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.


BGTF

 

[steaver]

Please provide Scripture to supprt your position that a woman cannot be an elected official in government or a supervisor in the workplace.

Genesis through Revelation. You will not find God placing women in authorative postions over men unless it is written as a negative.

So you would deny an earned promotion to a woman because of her gender? That would be totally illegal and immoral. I sincerely hope you do not supervise people, for your sake and theirs. You would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Fear of law suits is not what guides my life's decisions. Fear of the Lord and His word does. Women have numerious work oportunities that would not involve usurping authority over the men.

My standing up for God's word on these matters will not change this world's view. My goal is to follow God's word on all issues because I have a judgment day coming. My goal is to preach what God's word says and warn my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.

Like it or not, the very Spirit within you should be enough to teach you that supporting a pro-murder candidate is sin as well as desiring a woman to lead the men. Men need to stand up and be men, lead this country and this church. Apathatic men are as much to blame as the women who desire to rule over them.

God Bless! :thumbs:

 

[Hardsheller]

I just sent a financial contribution to Mike Huckabee's campaign.

Thank all of you for helping me feel good about it. :applause:

 

[KenH]

1) Genesis through Revelation

2) is sin as well as desiring a woman to lead the men.

1) Baloney. What about Deborah? What about Esther?

2) Are you kinfolk with Ahmadinejad? Your nonsensical extremism reminds me of him.

 

[steaver]

1) Baloney. What about Deborah? What about Esther?

Well Deborah was a prophet, so she was speaking in God's authority. It is believed by sholars that God raised up a woman because the men were weak in leadership at this time. It's like a slap in the face to the men at the time for not taking the bull by the horns so to speak.

Esther? I believe it is very debateable as to whether she was in authority over men. She was given the honor of Queen by the King and petitioned the King for her people (kinfolk) but I'm not convinced this would be a role of authority over men.

It's debateable, I'll give you that. But Hillary is disqualified for her pro-murder stance so the woman issue is mute anyways, for now, until one runs who doesn't hold a sinful lifestyle such as hers.

2) Are you kinfolk with Ahmadinejad? Your nonsensical extremism reminds me of him.

Only through Adam and Eve. As are you! :thumbs:

God Bless!

 

[Dagwood]

Well Deborah was a prophet, so she was speaking in God's authority. It is believed by sholars that God raised up a woman because the men were weak in leadership at this time. It's like a slap in the face to the men at the time for not taking the bull by the horns so to speak.

Esther? I believe it is very debateable as to whether she was in authority over men. She was given the honor of Queen by the King and petitioned the King for her people (kinfolk) but I'm not convinced this would be a role of authority over men.

It's debateable, I'll give you that. But Hillary is disqualified for her pro-murder stance so the woman issue is mute anyways, for now, until one runs who doesn't hold a sinful lifestyle such as hers.

First, you stand piously only on the Word of God, now it's "sholars (sic)." Make up your mind.

 

[hillclimber1]

I just sent a financial contribution to Mike Huckabee's campaign.

Thank all of you for helping me feel good about it. :applause:

I very well may do the same, just not yet. He's a front runner in my book though.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Genesis through Revelation. You will not find God placing women in authorative postions over men unless it is written as a negative.



Fear of law suits is not what guides my life's decisions. Fear of the Lord and His word does. Women have numerious work oportunities that would not involve usurping authority over the men.

My standing up for God's word on these matters will not change this world's view. My goal is to follow God's word on all issues because I have a judgment day coming. My goal is to preach what God's word says and warn my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.

Like it or not, the very Spirit within you should be enough to teach you that supporting a pro-murder candidate is sin as well as desiring a woman to lead the men. Men need to stand up and be men, lead this country and this church. Apathatic men are as much to blame as the women who desire to rule over them.

Until ignorance and misapplication of scripture ends, dinosaurs will continue to roam the earth. You are not standing up for God's word, but for a twisted view of it, used to justify your hatred of women.

 

[saturneptune]

Until ignorance and misapplication of scripture ends, dinosaurs will continue to roam the earth. You are not standing up for God's word, but for a twisted view of it, used to justify your hatred of women.

Very well said, one of the best posts I have seen in a long time. Until we start recognizing the difference between the Word of God, and people's twisted opinions of the Word of God, there will be no black and white, only shades of gray.

 

[steaver]

Until ignorance and misapplication of scripture ends, dinosaurs will continue to roam the earth. You are not standing up for God's word, but for a twisted view of it, used to justify your hatred of women.

So your analysis of my post brings you to say I hate women. Very telling of yourself, moreso than what anyone would believe of me from my post.

Let's see, my mother is a woman, my daughter, my wife, my grandmother, my sister..........and I hate them all! Good observation brother :thumbs:

BTW, I forgive you :wavey:

Now it is quite easy to post an opinion such as you have here, it takes a bit more effort to study the scriptures and show your opponant why he is wrong.

1Ti 2:12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

God Bless! :thumbs:

 

[steaver]

First, you stand piously only on the Word of God, now it's "sholars (sic)." Make up your mind.

Hmmmmm.........I'll pick the Word of God :wavey:

I will always consider the Christian men God has blessed with insight and understanding to help me in my own studies. We are a body with differing gifts.

God Bless! :thumbs:

 

[steaver]

Very well said, one of the best posts I have seen in a long time.

You really need to read more post :godisgood:

Until we start recognizing the difference between the Word of God, and people's twisted opinions of the Word of God, there will be no black and white, only shades of gray.

Amen! Good advice brother.

God Bless! :thumbs: