If mary jane was legalized in the U.S.?

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Petrel:
All of which are irrelevant to someone dying of cancer.

I agree. But no one here is debating about medical use of marijuana under a doctor's directive. We're arguing recreational use, which is inappropriate for a Christian.

I am, however, willing to stick my neck out a bit and say that self-medicate with marijuana should not be allowed. Only use of marijuana while under the directive of a physician is appropriate for a Christian.

I think the data are mixed on marijuana and cancer.

There's no data that supports the idea that marijuana is in any way a cure for cancer. I think we're in agreement over that.

 

[Petrel]

Originally posted by Johnv:
But no one here is debating about medical use of marijuana under a doctor's directive.

Mr. av1611jim and I started debating medical marijuana on the last page. He thinks it's dangerous and ineffective.

We're arguing recreational use, which is inappropriate for a Christian.

Well, duh! What's there to argue about there?

There's no data that supports the idea that marijuana is in any way a cure for cancer. I think we're in agreement over that.

Yes, more's the pity. Cannabinoids may have some anti-cancer activity, but it's a far stretch to get from there to being clinically useful.

 

[Victory in Jesus]

Originally posted by TexasSky:
Lorelie,

You wrote: "When people who have been drunks for many years finally sober up, they seem to function just fine, where people who have been addicted to drugs don't seem to be "all there."

I think its wonderful that you've never seen anything else, but - I also think you've been sheltered from a harsh reality.

Many alcoholics who have been on alcohol for years and years never regain the full function of their mind after they sober up. I've seen the horrible things that alcohol can do to people.

Are you familiar with what a "bilirubin" count is in children? Basically if the liver can't process blood correctly, your body builds up a toxin that should be passed out of your system by urine. Its a common practice for doctors to test newborn bilirubin levels because during childbirth the rush of iron from a mother to a baby can cause a baby's bilirubin to shoot up. They treat it with special lights and lots of fluids.

If the liver can't process the blood byproducts quickly enough it can do permanent brain damage. Because alcohol damages the liver - the long term affect can be permandent brain damage.

Actually, OTC pain medicines like tylenol can do the same kind of damage. This is why it was a prescription to begin with. Unfortunately, because they are OTC drugs, and they don't cause weird effects that make them street-valuable, people think they're safe and take them by the fistfuls.

I was taking a LOT of them for back pain before my doctor pointed out the dangers to me.

I remember Dr. Dean Edell (a radio talk show host) saying one time, "People are so careful with the products they put into their cars, but they'll put anything into their own bodies".

I don't disagree with what you said, TexasSky...just adding to it.

 

[shannonL]

Yershuwa or whatever your name is,

Sounds to me like you still like to smoke pot. You sure defend it like a pothead. It definitly is addictive. Your own posts prove that if nothingelse. The rocket scientist that smoked 44 joints every two weeks. What, he did that because he just wanted to?
I got a cousin who smoked pot like cigerettes from the time he was 12 until he was about 30.
He is fried dude.

You claim it is not a "gateway" drug. Your wrong as rain. I've partied with lots of people and I mean lots of em back in my wilder days. Let me tell you pot was just a kickstarter for most but yet it was a drug they still had to have.

Alot of cokeheads like to smoke pot when coming down and so do crack heads. Most people don't go straight to shooting up heroin or coke unless they have gotten comfortable by smoking pot first. Why? Because it doesn't set you off like those drugs but definintly will help lower your defenses when contemplating trying other drugs.

I believe all drugs could have been created for good. Yet, the sinful nature of man coupled with the curse of sin upon creation has been what allows these things to be used negatively.

JUST SAY NO! BRO

 

[shannonL]

BTW, I remember smoking weed so much on a regular basis that me and my friends would laugh about coughing up blood. Wow, that is cool man.

It is also possible to halucinate from smoking pot depending on the THC level High levels of THC can also cause heart attacks.

I can find the autopsy reports of my friends that died. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

 

[blackbird]

Originally posted by shannonL:
Yershuwa or whatever your name is,

Sounds to me like you still like to smoke pot. You sure defend it like a pothead. It definitly is addictive. Your own posts prove that if nothingelse. The rocket scientist that smoked 44 joints every two weeks. What, he did that because he just wanted to?
I got a cousin who smoked pot like cigerettes from the time he was 12 until he was about 30.
He is fried dude.

You claim it is not a "gateway" drug. Your wrong as rain. I've partied with lots of people and I mean lots of em back in my wilder days. Let me tell you pot was just a kickstarter for most but yet it was a drug they still had to have.

Alot of cokeheads like to smoke pot when coming down and so do crack heads. Most people don't go straight to shooting up heroin or coke unless they have gotten comfortable by smoking pot first. Why? Because it doesn't set you off like those drugs but definintly will help lower your defenses when contemplating trying other drugs.

I believe all drugs could have been created for good. Yet, the sinful nature of man coupled with the curse of sin upon creation has been what allows these things to be used negatively.

JUST SAY NO! BRO

As a Pastor---as a friend---as a moderator on the BB----I'll encourage you #1 to not start smoking "wacky weed" ---or even plain ole cigarettes for that matter

#2 If you smoke---stop! You can----get you some help---anything to stop!! For Jesus' sake! For your wife's sake! For your kids sake! For your parents sake!

 

[yeshua4me2]

wow did i come off wrong or what?????? i was just discussing what i knew and did in the past not what i am doing now. and the rocket scientist had a disease, and was offended by blanket statements like anyone who smokes pot get brain damage. there was an entire show on the legalization for medical use which is the stand point i come from.

if a doctor can prescribe cocaine or one of it's derivitives why not pot???? i tore my cornea once and the doctor gave me liquid xeylocaine which he told me was a form of cocaine. i then asked him if doctors ever prescribed cocaine, and he said rarely, sometimes for a certian type of rinoplasty. don't know though.

i advocate only for medical use, which i thought i made clear, guess not. sorry for the mix up.

thankyou and God Bless

 

[TaterTot]

I never doubted ya, yeshua4me2

 

[yeshua4me2]

and even if smoking pot is not a sin per se.....

1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

1Co 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.


does smoking pot edify?no.
case closed.

thankyou and God Bless