IF Not A Baptist, Which Church Would You Be Attending?

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Baptist is really about name these days.

Those are fighting words dude. :laugh:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Around here, Cumberland Presbyterians are not Reformed. Well, let's say they are not Calvinist. That's why they're not just Presbyterians. The Cumberlands and Presbyterians parted company over Calvinism.

That said, the Cumberlands in this area are probably closest to the Baptist church I serve in doctrine and practice.

Dont they ordain women....apostate in my view.

 

[Michael Wrenn]

I'm not clear on what you're saying. Do you mean CP instead of CB?
And about OSAS. CPs are for it. Are you agin' it?

I'm sorry, Tom; I mistyped it. Yes, I meant to say CP.

Yes, I'm agin' it.

 

[Michael Wrenn]

Dont they ordain women....apostate in my view.

Not ordaining women is apostate in my view.

 

[thomas15]

Not ordaining women is apostate in my view.

My view is that being affiliated with a Baptist assembly is less important than getting basic doctrine correct and that would mean avoiding membership in any denomination that ordains outside of the clear instruction in 1 Tim ch. 3 and Titus. I know that there is a lot of disagreement here and I have a good friend, a solid Biblical born again believer who belongs to a Wesylan church (but with a male pastor).

My particular assembly would allow me to assume a deacon or elder position and would if I desired to be pastor appoint me if I completed the necessary educatinal requirements however my personal view is that I don't meet the strict requirements as noted in 1 Tim and Titus.

Induidual soul liberty.

 

[DaChaser1]

I agree.

My second choice would be Presbyterian (PCA).

IF one is not not though a reformed baptist, what would be the options?

 

[DaChaser1]

Not ordaining women is apostate in my view.

problem is that there are NO examples within the NT that give us the option to have females ordained in pastoral position within the churches, can be deacons per Bible, and perhaps as missionaries/teachers of say children church, but NOT as head pastoral authority, as that falls under 'headship"

 

[DaChaser1]

Dont they ordain women....apostate in my view.

That is why I would probably go towards say Evangelical free Church, as solid baptist, except goes to "free grace" position...

Like their liberty to decide on individual issuesd such as gifts or not, timing of second coming etc also, "true " baptists in allowing for individual understanding in doctrines "soul liberty"

Some hold that not ordaiing women deal breaker, other allowing Gifts, others not be reformed etc!

 

[annsni]

Not ordaining women is apostate in my view.

See, I'm the opposite. On vacation we went to a church where it turns out there was a woman pastor. We walked out. Completely apostate according to Scripture.

 

[jonathan.borland]

I would do the only logical thing and start a new Baptist church in our living room.

 

[jonathan.borland]

What would you be if you wouldn't be a Baptist?
I'd be ashamed.

If there is not a Baptist church in my area what would I do?
I'd start one.

Didn't see this before, but I second that motion!

 

[DaChaser1]

Didn't see this before, but I second that motion!

Does that mean both you and DHK see baptists as being only NT Christian churches?

 

[govteach51]

What would you be if you wouldn't be a Baptist?
I'd be ashamed.

If there is not a Baptist church in my area what would I do?
I'd start one.

And the way we Baptists disagree, there would be 10 more new Baptist churches in a few years...:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Jerome]

Dont they ordain women....apostate in my view.

Huh?

So the Salvation Army is an 'apostate' organization?

Or the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod?

 

[TCGreek]

Those are fighting words dude. :laugh:

I know. But I call it like I see it. ;-)

 

[Michael Wrenn]

problem is that there are NO examples within the NT that give us the option to have females ordained in pastoral position within the churches, can be deacons per Bible, and perhaps as missionaries/teachers of say children church, but NOT as head pastoral authority, as that falls under 'headship"[/QUOTE

It is dangerous and leads to error when something is interpreted apart from its New Testament context and meaning, as the following article shows; the entire article should be read:

http://www.cbeinternational.org/?q=content/i-believe-male-headship

 

[Michael Wrenn]

See, I'm the opposite. On vacation we went to a church where it turns out there was a woman pastor. We walked out. Completely apostate according to Scripture.

I actually don't think a church is apostate if it doesn't ordain women, just tragically and sadly mistaken.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Huh?

So the Salvation Army is an 'apostate' organization?

Or the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod?

Have you been to a Missouri Synod lately.......As far as Im concerned "YES"

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

problem is that there are NO examples within the NT that give us the option to have females ordained in pastoral position within the churches, can be deacons per Bible, and perhaps as missionaries/teachers of say children church, but NOT as head pastoral authority, as that falls under 'headship"

Then Mickey has got problems with scripture, wouldnt you say? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Amy.G]

Then Mickey has got problems with scripture, wouldnt you say? :smilewinkgrin:

Yes. Women pastors is just one of many.