AngelforChrist
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Better read that post above yours about the hard work , Christ did all the work nessesary , we only walk according to His will in them .Sounds like hard work to me
Thank you AngelforChrist for pointing that out.
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Better read that post above yours about the hard work , Christ did all the work nessesary , we only walk according to His will in them .Sounds like hard work to me
Thank you AngelforChrist for pointing that out.
i am sorry but i have never really dug deep into the doctrinal beliefs of martin luther, but let me say this if he believed in Christ alone by faith alone then he certainly was saved by Grace alone correct?Originally posted by GraceSaves:
Massdak,
Do you believe that Martin Luther was saved by grace and responded faithfully to the gospel call?
i am sorry but i have never really dug deep into the doctrinal beliefs of martin luther, but let me say this if he believed in Christ alone by faith alone then he certainly was saved by Grace alone correct? </font>[/QUOTE]So, even though Lutheranism is the largest Protestant denomination in the world, and the Reformation is pretty much the most significant event in Christianity in the last 1000 years at least, you don't know what he believes? Lutherans have sacraments, believe in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, and believe that Baptism is necessary for salvation.Originally posted by massdak:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GraceSaves:
Massdak,
Do you believe that Martin Luther was saved by grace and responded faithfully to the gospel call?
You believe that sacraments are "works," but Luther kepts two sacraments, and even in some of his writings, beleived that Confession was a sacrament. He believed that Baptism was necessary for salvation, and believed in infant baptism.Originally posted by Ray Berrian:
Now you see why Luther was so excited and why Lutheranism grew so quickly.
You believe that sacraments are "works," but Luther kepts two sacraments, and even in some of his writings, beleived that Confession was a sacrament. He believed that Baptism was necessary for salvation, and believed in infant baptism.Originally posted by GraceSaves:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ray Berrian:
Now you see why Luther was so excited and why Lutheranism grew so quickly.
So basically then you return ad hominem attacks against people who share beliefs as a whole rather than dealing with individuals who may or may not have slighted you . Did you miss the verse about returning evil for evil and please tell me what my sin was against you ?Angelforchrist,
I was only experimenting with the sort of questionable debating techniques that are common on this section of this board.
Im sorry , but that truth I learned from the calling of the Holy Spirit and the bible , I didnt even know what catholisism was at the time. Does this claim mean you believe the bible and truth of God was only here because of the RCC?Protestantism asks the Christian to trust in the Lord.
Yet, another truth Protestantism has inherited from Catholicism.
If you are saved by faith in Jesus Christ then how can you be unsaved or lose salvation.Originally posted by Carson Weber:
sozo in Romans 8:24 is first person, plural, aorist, passive, indicative
In 1 Cor 9:27, adokimos is the equivalent of the English "reprobate" (i.e., "damned")
In Galatians, Paul adamantly exclaims to his Gentile converts that if they put their trust in the Mosaic ceremonial laws the Judaizers are condoning, they will lose their salvation.
I had an hour-long conversation on the phone today with a Baptist who is coming into the Church, and this was one of the issues we discussed. At this point in her journey, she no longer can see how OSAS is Biblical in the least bit. Neither can I.