If you was President...

[Jedi Knight]

What would be the FIRST TWO things you would do if you could?

 

[tinytim]

Fire Congress...
Then write an executive order to give the president a 300% pay raise...

 

[Jedi Knight]

Fire Congress...
Then write an executive order to give the president a 300% pay raise...

:laugh: Funny!

 

[Roy]

Abolish the E.P.A. and ban homosexuals from the military - no more "Don't Ask Don't Tell."

 

[poncho]

If I were president there's only one thing I would do.

I would faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and would, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

So help me God.

I'm quite sure I wouldn't be a popular president.

 

[blackbird]

If I were president there's only one thing I would do.

I would faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and would, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

So help me God.

I'm quite sure I wouldn't be a popular president.

I'm with ya on that one, Poncho!!!

 

[Salty]

If I were president there's only one thing I would do.

I would faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and would, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

OK, but what would you specifically do

For myself,
1. I would want Congress to pass the line item veto
2. I would want Congress to pass term limits
---A. 3 terms for House
---B. 2 terms for Senate
3. End "automatic" pay raise for Congress
4. English as the official language
5. Constitutional amendments:
---A. Protect pre-born
---B. Marriage - 1 man 1 woman
6. Immigration
---A. Strictly enforced
---B. No government benefits for illegals
7. No retirement for elected officials

This is for starters.

President Salty

 

[poncho]

First things first Salty.

1. Get rid of the Federal Reserve.

2. Get rid of the IRS.

3. Enforce the Logan Act.

That should take care of 80 or 90% of the problems we face as a nation today. Then you, blackbird and I can sit down and hash out all the other stuff. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Salty]

First things first Salty.


2. Get rid of the IRS.
:smilewinkgrin:

Then how do we fund the Federal govt for necessary operation.

 

[poncho]

Then how do we fund the Federal govt for necessary operation.

Same way it was done from 1776 to 1913.

Corporate taxes, taxes on alcohol, tobacco, firearms, tariffs on trade, and military hardware sales and such should be enough to fund a constitutionally limited goverment, Salty.

As it stands now your income tax does little more than pay towards the interest on the debt our "leaders" incurred by borrowing money from the Fed who in turn makes it (fiat currency) appear out of thin air.

 

[Salty]

Corporate taxes, taxes on alcohol, tobacco, firearms, tariffs on trade, and military hardware sales and such should be enough to fund a constitutionally limited goverment, Salty.
quote]

and who collects those taxes - THE IRS!

I agree we should do away with the income tax. But why should we only tax alcohol and tobacco - beacus they are sin taxes - then how about certian magazines, gas guzzlers, ect.

"The power to tax is the power to control"
(I forgot who is credited with the quote)

That is the reason I support the E-tax

Under this plan, everyone pays - NO execptions and that includes non-profits, churches, ect.

Using this plan, a tax of 1% should be plenty for - as Poncho says - "to fund a constitutionally limited goverment, "

 

[poncho]

Corporate taxes, taxes on alcohol, tobacco, firearms, tariffs on trade, and military hardware sales and such should be enough to fund a constitutionally limited goverment, Salty.
quote]

and who collects those taxes - THE IRS!

I agree we should do away with the income tax. But why should we only tax alcohol and tobacco - beacus they are sin taxes - then how about certian magazines, gas guzzlers, ect.

"The power to tax is the power to control"
(I forgot who is credited with the quote)

That is the reason I support the E-tax

Under this plan, everyone pays - NO execptions and that includes non-profits, churches, ect.

Using this plan, a tax of 1% should be plenty for - as Poncho says - "to fund a constitutionally limited goverment, "

This is a direct tax, no?

A direct tax must be apportioned among the states in accordance with population.

Article I, Section 9, Clause 4. . .

No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

Strictly speaking, it probably is not necessary for the federal government to tax anyone directly – it could simply print the money it needs. However, that would be too bold a stroke, for it would then be obvious to all what kind of counterfeiting operation the government is running. The present system combining taxation and inflation is akin to watering the milk: too much water and the people catch on. Ron Paul

There is not, and never has been, any delegation of authority from We the People to the government for the collection of an unapportioned direct tax on the wages and salaries of the American People. It has been a maxim of English Law since the Magna Carta of 1215, that the People must consent to all taxation. "We are being taxed without our Consent!" Phil Hart - Consitutional Income, Do You Have Any. . . page 278

Tax History 1777 - 1815.

 

[Salty]

A direct tax must be apportioned among the states in accordance with population.

Article I, Section 9, Clause 4. . .

No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

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Fine, let the States or Commonwealths collect the E-Tax and then pay according to population

 

[saturneptune]

Then how do we fund the Federal govt for necessary operation.

The same way we did before the IRS was founded.

 

[saturneptune]

First guiding principle would be to run the country by the Constitution.

First thing I would do is get rid of lobbyists and pork spending.

Second thing I would do is get control of the borders.

Third thing is to implement all of poncho's ideas.

 

[Purple Lady]

I'd vote for you all! :thumbs:

 

[Salty]

First guiding principle would be to run the country by the Constitution.

First thing I would do is get rid of lobbyists and pork spending.

Lobbyists - I would say they have a right to do their job -
How would you constitutionally get rid of them?

(I agree 101% with ending pork spending)

 

[padredurand]

As it stands now your income tax does little more than pay towards the interest on the debt our "leaders" incurred by borrowing money from the Fed who in turn makes it (fiat currency) appear out of thin air.

Fiat currency? You mean like this?

Is that what they used to buy Chrysler?

 

[Salty]

You like showing off your brand new car, dont you Padre:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Plain Old Bill]

I say we start a grass roots movement to draft Poncho and SLKCTY for pres & VP.:thumbsup: