IF Your Baptist Group Approved Alternate Lifestyles, Would You Depart?

[Salty]

Bingo to that which I bolded.!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

No gay person can worship God in a biblical manner. ...

I disagree, I believe that gay people do worship the Lord in a Biblical manner.

Now if you are talking about homosexuals-that is another story

IF Your Baptist Group Approved Alternate Lifestyles, Would You Depart?) If was approved , would you see time to say so long?

I couldn't care less if a couple live in a single family house, a duplex or a hi-rise.
Now if you are talking about living the homosexual lifestyle - that is a different story.

By group, do you mean local church, denomination or both? As I stated before - for either, I would stay a while and try to change it. It that was not successful, I
would leave and take as many folks / churches with me as possible.

 

[convicted1]

I disagree, I believe that gay people do worship the Lord in a Biblical manner.

Now if you are talking about homosexuals-that is another story


I couldn't care less if a couple live in a single family house, a duplex or a hi-rise.
Now if you are talking about living the homosexual lifestyle - that is a different story.

By group, do you mean local church, denomination or both? As I stated before - for either, I would stay a while and try to change it. It that was not successful, I
would leave and take as many folks / churches with me as possible.

What do you mean by "gay"? Happy? Is that it?

 

[convicted1]

Jerry Falwell dropped the ball concerning this years ago....

 

[preacher4truth]

I disagree, I believe that gay people do worship the Lord in a Biblical manner.

Now if you are talking about homosexuals-that is another story


I couldn't care less if a couple live in a single family house, a duplex or a hi-rise.

Oh boy. :sleep:

What does where a couple reside have to do with any of this? That's right. Not a thing.

Now if you are talking about living the homosexual lifestyle - that is a different story.

You're beginning to catch on. That's the story we've been discussing.

By group, do you mean local church, denomination or both? As I stated before - for either, I would stay a while and try to change it. It that was not successful, I would leave and take as many folks / churches with me as possible.

You wouldn't change a thing. In fact you're confused over the issue and feel you have some type of following to split a church?

And what exactly is the difference between gay and h0m0sectual?

Nothing.

We are talking about the practicing lifestyle so catch up. OK?

Thanks.

I think you're trying to come across as 'intellectual' but you can't see the forest for the trees in this incident. You've missed the point completely.

:wavey:

 

[preacher4truth]

What do you mean by "gay"? Happy? Is that it?

He has separated gay and h0m0sectual into two distinct groups.

Unreal. They are one in the same.

 

[Salty]

You wouldn't change a thing. In fact you're confused over the issue and feel you have some type of following to split a church? ?

But I would try - I wouldnt be doing the splitting, they would.

And what exactly is the difference between gay and h0m0sectual?

What do you mean by "gay"? Happy? Is that it?

:thumbsup:

I think you're trying to come across as 'intellectual' but you can't see the forest for the trees in this incident. You've missed the point completely. ?

No, the point is that I refuse to fall victim to L.E.F.T.

 

[preacher4truth]

But I would try - I wouldnt be doing the splitting, they would.

:thumbsup:


No, the point is that I refuse to fall victim to L.E.F.T.

Yes it is verified you've missed the point completely. Congrats. :wavey:

 

[Zaac]

Yes.

To run with the same logic, then the bride of Christ is nothing.

Invite all practicing thieves, drunkards, immoral, idolaters, adulterers and h0m0sectuals. Invite them all in to worship right beside the redeemed. Isn't that what it is all about? 'Love'?

The church has been hoodwinked into believing the h0m0sectuals need a special privilege and a special invite to worship -- which is by the way on THEIR terms.

And once again, this is a good place to remind the brethren that the CHURCH is for the Body of BELIEVERS, not the lost.

Stop waiting to take them to church to hear from the pastor what we should be telling them.

But the thing remains, the h0m0sectuals, adulterers, drunkards, idolaters &c will all go into the same hell. It amazes me that some think the h0m0sectuals need some special other privilege or right in worship as if they are an exclusive group. They're not, in fact they are headed to hell just like all lost sinners.

Yes indeed. And we must remember that idolatry covers a lot of things. A lot have taken to treating their neighbors like lepers instead of loving them as themselves. Being against an issue seems to have become bigger than being for Christ.

 

[Salty]

Yes it is verified you've missed the point completely. Congrats. :wavey:

actually, you have missed my point

 

[Steadfast Fred]

The sin of the gay person is actually greater than that of the straight when it comes to the intimate part of a relationship.

God's Word says for man to lie with man is abomination. He does not say that of a man lying with a woman.

Abomination is sin, yes. But it appears that God sees it as a greater sin.

 

[preacher4truth]

actually, you have missed my point

Keep telling yourself that. :love2:

 

[Salty]

Keep telling yourself that. :love2:

It appears you do not have an understaning of L.E.F.T.

 

[Sminasian]

I would be gone in a heartbeat

 

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Not Possible....!

Could allow them to worship with me, as ALL of us come as sinners to God , and need the Saviour, but that person MUST be not practicing that lifestyle!

It is NOT POSSIBLE for an unrepentant homosexual to actually "worship" God any more than it is possible for an unrepentant adulterer or fornicator to actually "worship" God. You can't live openly (or privately) in a wicked lifestyle and legitimately or genuinely worship God. The TRUTH is...if WE harbor sin in OUR lives then our so-called "worship" will be equally null and void! There SHOULD BE no question about that. There certainly didn't use to be.

IF the gay folks feel comfortable in our churches then THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG. They should know that Jesus does love them and so do we...but not their sinful lifestyle. It is a difficult balance to maintain.

If my church welcomed them with open arms and didn't make it clear that they needed to repudiate their moral wickedness then I would have to find another church to unite with.

If the denomination I was a part of did the same then I'd have no choice but to seperate from it.

I want to see them saved and safe for eternity as much as the Lord does. I have known some "gay" folks over the years that I thought a lot of as people but I have told them that their lifestyle would ultimately destroy them unless they turned from it. If we don't warn them and tell them the truth we are demonstrating that we DON'T CARE and that we DON'T LOVE them.

The bottom line is that in THIS culture we will never be popular or acceptable if we stand for the truth. We better get used to that and quit trying to be buddy-buddy with this world. Otherwise we'll get dragged right down the same sewer with it.

Bro.Greg:saint:

 

[12strings]

The sin of the gay person is actually greater than that of the straight when it comes to the intimate part of a relationship.

God's Word says for man to lie with man is abomination. He does not say that of a man lying with a woman.

Abomination is sin, yes. But it appears that God sees it as a greater sin.

Actually, Scripture calls all the following abominations:
1. A proud look
2. A lying tongue
3. Hands that shed innocent blood
4. A heart that devises wicked ideas
5. Feet that are swift in running to mischief
6. A false witness that speaks lies.
7. Those who sow discord among brethren.
8. All who are disobedient to God.
9. false measures used for deciet.
10. idolatry
etc...

 

[Yeshua1]

Actually, Scripture calls all the following abominations:
1. A proud look
2. A lying tongue
3. Hands that shed innocent blood
4. A heart that devises wicked ideas
5. Feet that are swift in running to mischief
6. A false witness that speaks lies.
7. Those who sow discord among brethren.
8. All who are disobedient to God.
9. false measures used for deciet.
10. idolatry
etc...

True, yet active homosexuality want to claim to have jesus ANF the practice, NOT able to do that!

 

[Steadfast Fred]

Actually, Scripture calls all the following abominations:
1. A proud look
2. A lying tongue
3. Hands that shed innocent blood
4. A heart that devises wicked ideas
5. Feet that are swift in running to mischief
6. A false witness that speaks lies.
7. Those who sow discord among brethren.
8. All who are disobedient to God.
9. false measures used for deciet.
10. idolatry
etc...

Man lying with man is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Now, while I know that this is under Old Testament Mosaic Law, I also know that God said in Malachi that He does not change. I highly doubt that He has changed His mind about homosexuality being abomination to a lesser sin.

 

[Zaac]

True, yet active homosexuality want to claim to have jesus ANF the practice, NOT able to do that!

Why not? And I think right here again is where a little Christian humility should shine through.

Once again, this board much like the church likes to point its proverbial finger at a sin and say that someone can't have Jesus or cannot be saved if they practice this.

For just about an entire year, many on this board made an idol out of getting a Presidential candaiate elected and didn't care at all that he was the face of evil against God. Did any of those have Jesus

Or what about the folks who gossip on here daily? Do they have Jesus?

What about the folks with strongholds in their lives? Do they have Jesus?

The list goes on and on and on.

You break one, you break them all. And in accordance with that, we're ALL habitual sinners.

Scripture says to esteem others better than yourself. Perhaps the Church is better served by individuals dealing with their own sin and lack of holiness before deeming someone else absent Christ?

 

[Steadfast Fred]

Homosexuality is an abominable act/lifestyle. One cannot be a homosexual and a Christian at the same time.

How can we say this?

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

The abominable, those who are guilty of working abominations, shall have their part in the lake of fire.

Doesn't sound to me like they are Christian.

 

[Zaac]

Homosexuality is an abominable act/lifestyle. One cannot be a homosexual and a Christian at the same time.

How can we say this?

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

The abominable, those who are guilty of working abominations, shall have their part in the lake of fire.

Doesn't sound to me like they are Christian.

In accordance with God's word, you tell a lie and you've broken the same law as the homosexual offender.

Do you consider yourself a Christian because we all know that you have told a lie?