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rbell

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JustChristian said:
So you don't support the American democracy. Why, then, are we fighting to duplicate this mistake (in your eyes) in Iraq?

Off-topic. Again.

psst.....we're not a democracy.

An "all over the map" voter here. But smaller gov't is almost always the driving force for me.
 

LeBuick

New Member
rbell said:
Off-topic. Again.

psst.....we're not a democracy.

An "all over the map" voter here. But smaller gov't is almost always the driving force for me.

Someone needs to change the sign because we sure seem like a democracy...
 

BigBossman

Active Member
What I don't like is I hear alot of comments from people regarding third parties:

1. "You're only throwing your vote away."
or
2. "There has never been a Third Party President; They'll never win."

Both of these statements are nonsense. #2 is partially correct. When I vote, I don't want to feel like I am voting for the lesser of two evils. I will vote my conscience everytime. With everyone believing that third party candidates will never win, its no wonder that they never win.

People need to look deeper at the individuals that are running not so much along party lines. I honestly believe there are Republicans worth voting for, but for the most part the Republican Party has lost its way. The only way I will vote for a Democrat is if they are a true conservative. In the 1998 election, I did vote for the Democrat running for Lt. Governor, because the Republican running was a staunch Clinton supporter.
 

JustChristian

New Member
rbell said:
Off-topic. Again.

psst.....we're not a democracy.

An "all over the map" voter here. But smaller gov't is almost always the driving force for me.
psssst..... I know that we're a Republic. Why did Bush continually say we wanted to develop a democracy in Iraq? Because he didn't want to replicate our system of government there? No, because in common usage the term democracy is used instead of Republic. BTW, this has nothing to do with political parties.

But, actually your statement is off-topic, again, so I suppose i shouldn't have responded.
 

Salty

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Jim1999 said:
Thanks, Salty.

Quote:
1. Health care
2. Child care
3. Constitutional monarchy
4. Dual language (French and English)


These are essential parts of Canada. To try to take out health care would be the defeat of any government or even province.

Consitutional monarchy is what we are.

French and English,,the founding nations.

Cheers, Jim quote]

Full health care and child care - I oppose because they are not the job of govt.
English and French - I understand is a touchy subject. I would assume there are more English speaking citizens, then French, but...

As far as a monarchy - well, that is the tradition of Canada - of course, if you appoint me King, then I could handle it.

King Salty

PS, Jim would you come Stateside and help this party get organized?
 
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Salty

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...2. "There has never been a Third Party President; They'll never win."...

Actually Lincoln, running as a Republician was a third party candidate in 1860, and then in 1864 he ran on the National Union Party

From the Link: ... Lincoln, one of history's most beloved Presidents, was nearly defeated in his reelection attempt in 1864. Yet by that summer, Lincoln himself feared he would lose. ... Peace Democrats, who wanted a negotiated peace at any cost. ...
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
Hand raised, jumping up and down. I have not voted for either candidate from the Republicrat Party in many years.

Funny note. I am posting on my phone so my ad block is not working. The Irish presidential election is today and ads for the candidates are popping up in this thread.

Presidents run party-less here. I like that.
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
Actually Lincoln, running as a Republician was a third party candidate in 1860, and then in 1864 he ran on the National Union Party

From the Link: ... Lincoln, one of history's most beloved Presidents, was nearly defeated in his reelection attempt in 1864. Yet by that summer, Lincoln himself feared he would lose. ... Peace Democrats, who wanted a negotiated peace at any cost. ...

What were the two major parties in 1860 that made Lincoln third party in the modern sense of the word?
 

webdog

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I think instead of republicans abandoning ship essentially strengthening the democratic party by default, true conservatives need to take the party back and reform it. Running away from the problems is not the answer.
 

Salty

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I think instead of republicans abandoning ship essentially strengthening the democratic party by default, true conservatives need to take the party back and reform it. Running away from the problems is not the answer.

and we have a shot at that here in NY, as state law allows the fusion ballot. The Conservative Party normally endorses the Republicans - not always, but usually. The R's know they have to keep the C's happy or else they loose.
 

J.D.

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I'm retaining my membership in the Republican Part as long a Ron Paul is on the ticket. If he leaves, I leave too, because I don't trust any of the other candidates with my liberty and money. I'll go to the CP if I leave.
 

poncho

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I don't trust them with anyone's money or liberty. They all serve the same masters. Money and power.
 

webdog

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I'm retaining my membership in the Republican Part as long a Ron Paul is on the ticket. If he leaves, I leave too, because I don't trust any of the other candidates with my liberty and money. I'll go to the CP if I leave.

One, I would like to know the over / under on Paul living through his presidency, due to age and his attack on the FR (people suffer unfortunate one car accidents when they do this)...and two, he flops as much as Kerry did and will be to anyone what you want him to be. He's just as crooked as the next guy
 
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J.D.

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One, I would like to know the over / under on Paul living through his presidency, due to age and his attack on the FR (people suffer unfortunate one car accidents when they do this)...and two, he flops as much as Kerry did and will be to anyone what you want him to be. He's just as crooked as the next guy
Well, if he ever does build momentum and gets close to the actually winning, it will be interesting to see what they pull out of their bag of dirty tricks to get rid of him. But if he is as crooked and flip-floppy as you say he is, then they've got nothing to worry about, right?
 
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