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IFB compared to Baptist churches

Discussion in 'Fundamental Baptist Forum' started by joey, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    Phillip - I would guess that he went to Hyles-Anderson for a little while, or took some kind of extension course. To my knowledge, Hyles never participated in a college in Arkansas. As you indicate, this guy didn't finish with Hyles, but ended up his "education" through another school.
     
  2. John of Japan

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    What was confusing was that "Files" was head of the Arkansas Baptist College. Then we have "Hyles" who as Don agrees never taught in an Arkansas Bible school, but preached there many times. We could then add to the mix an old IFB evangelist, Hugh Pyle! :smilewinkgrin:
    Actually, I know other pastors who do not allow background tapes, not because they oppose them but because it is hard to predict what will come off them. (Hard rock?) An alternative is pastors who require them to be approved ahead of time, but that can cause hurt feelings.

    As for drums, I don't think it's a sin to use them in church, but I'm uncomfortable with them in church myself. Note that the OT temple music did not use drums, though it was lively music, even though they were available from Egypt.
     
  3. John of Japan

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    "New Age Bible" is a complete contradiction in terms. If a Bible is translated even very poorly, there is no way it can teach New Age doctrine. Riplinger is flat out nuts (not to mention being a two-time divorcee and unethical--just ask the Dean Burgon Society which recently broke from her.)
    There are no Chinese Bible translations in print in either Chinese or Japanese from the Textus Receptus or the KJV. Ruckmanites have a very hard time with this. One Ruckmanite pastor called a missionary friend of mine a liar because he said this. It seems Ruckman had said there was a "Japanese KJV."
     
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    What is the text they used to translate from?
     
  5. John of Japan

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    The main Chinese version is the Chinese Union Version of 1906 (OT 1919), done from Nestle's (with reference to the ERV) in the NT I believe. (There are CUV-only Chinese Christians! :smilewinkgrin:) There is also a Chinese GNB-type version and one done by the "Local Church" cult of Witness Lee. There are a couple of other one man translations I believe, but the Communist gov. keeps strict tabs.

    In Japan we have the Shinkaiyaku, like the NASB, which almost all conservatives use; the Classical (Nestle's and Masoretic); the Kohgo (Nestles in the NT) and the Kyohdoh (Confraternity), which ise UBS in the NT and (surprise!) the LXX in the OT!
     
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    I am very familiar with Bible Baptist Church. I could name a dozen more just like it in within 40miles of Jacksonville. The extreme IFB's seem to thrive in the Southern States. The people are conditioned to blindly follow a self-proclaimed "man of God" without question or thought. I truly believe these churches are small cults. The feeling of relief, peace & spiritual freedom upon leaving them is nothing less than the removal of demonic influence from one's life. Satan is the accuser & oppressor of the brethren. Condemning, fault-finding, manipulative, oppressive churches are not of God.
     
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    One at the end of every dead end road up the holler, with a sign out at the highway laying out their radical sepratism... :laugh:

    Seen plenty in the backwoods of Kencucky. Would never dream of stopping in. People don't come back when they do that.
     
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    Are you referring to North Jacksonville (Near Chicago), Middle Jacksonville (Arkansas), or South Jacksonville (Florida)?:laugh:
     
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    John, is this a Japanese translation of the TR?

    http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/Japanese_Textus_Receptus_Version
     
  10. John of Japan

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    Yes, it's called the Nagai Yaku ("Pastor Nagai's Translation") or the New Covenant Translation, unfortunately out of print. It was done by Pastor Nagai in 1938 in very difficult classical Japanese, an is the only complete NT up till now that was done from the TR. When we finish our Japanese NT it will be the first complete effort from the TR in modern Japanese. (There have been other efforts, and one group published Mark but then fell apart.)

    Almost all of the page (that is input anyway) is the Nagai Yaku, but if I remember correctly 1 John is an effort by a Japanese man in Yokosuka connected with a house church by an American layman who doesn't speak Japanese.
     
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