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Yeshua1

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1689Dave said:
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14)

Perfectly keeping the Two Great Commandments is the condition for eternal life too..............., but the common characteristics of those for whom Jesus fulfilled the law is believing and suffering in his behalf.

“For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;” (Philippians 1:29)

Now you can believe with all your might and suffer. But These are not conditions you meet for salvation, they are characteristics of those whom Christ saves.
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ONLY Jesus could and did ever keep the Law though!
 
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Yeshua1

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1689Dave said:
I don't think they know they are lost, much less care that they are. But the Two Great Commandments written in the heart condemn them. Because they know how they want others to treat them, but do not treat others this way.
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Actually, God has 10 Commandments, not just 2 of them!
 
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Yeshua1 said:
Nope, as the scriptures teach to us that we are all condemned and lost sinners when born, and then God chooses to save us, and when we receive Jesus as Lord thru faith, we are forever secured in the Book that has the names ofall of the redeemed from Eternity!
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How many times? show me a verse that says your names is written in the Book when saved?
 
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Yeshua1 said:
God sees all of us now under the Fall of Adam, as we all have sin natures from birth.
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Yes. That sin nature is the handed down knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 3:22). And that knowledge of evil causes us to have that sin nature and that knowledge of good causes us to be self condemned before the Holy God (1 John 3:20-21; Romans 2:5-16).

Only those whose names remain in the book of life shall be saved (Revelation 20:15; Mark 10:14-15; John 3:3).
 
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Yeshua1

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37818 said:
Yes. That sin nature is the handed down knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 3:22). And that knowledge of evil causes us to have that sin nature and that knowledge of good causes us to be self condemned before the Holy God (1 John 3:20-21; Romans 2:5-16).

Only those whose names remain in the book of life shall be saved (Revelation 20:15; Mark 10:14-15; John 3:3).
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Our names are written down once wew receive jesus, and will never be blotted out!
 
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37818

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Yeshua1 said:
Our names are written down once wew receive jesus, and will never be blotted out!
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Ah, no. When we receive Jesus Christ our name will never be blotted out (Revelation 3:5; 1 John 5:4). Please show me the reference where names are said to be added.
 
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Yeshua1 said:
God law is the same, He did not abridge it!
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The Ten Commandments were designed for wicked unbelievers. The Two Great Commandments were for believers.

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;” (1 Timothy 1:9–10)
 
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Yeshua1

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37818 said:
Ah, no. When we receive Jesus Christ our name will never be blotted out (Revelation 3:5; 1 John 5:4). Please show me the reference where names are said to be added.
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They get placed in once we are saved, we are all born lost sinners, correct?
 
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Yeshua1

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1689Dave said:
The Ten Commandments were designed for wicked unbelievers. The Two Great Commandments were for believers.

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;” (1 Timothy 1:9–10)
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The Law cannot be subdivided as you have done it here!
 
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1689Dave

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Yeshua1 said:
The Law cannot be subdivided as you have done it here!
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The Ten Commandments do not remain in force since thew New Covenant replaced them.

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people.” (Jeremiah 31:31–33)
 
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Yeshua1

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1689Dave said:
The Ten Commandments do not remain in force since thew New Covenant replaced them.

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people.” (Jeremiah 31:31–33)
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The Moral law that the 10 Commandments represent are still in full force!
 
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Yeshua1 said:
The Moral law that the 10 Commandments represent are still in full force!
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They are not. You cannot separate the law into civil, ceremonial, or moral. If you keep one commandment as a rule of duty, you need to return to animal sacrifice and reject Christ.
 
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