Ignored Verse Importance

[1689Dave]

it does NOT deny it either, its left up to God!

Don't teach what scripture does not teach.

 

[37818]

They get placed in once we are saved, we are all born lost sinners, correct?

The elect have there names in the book before creation. God is fully omniscient. Everyone's name is also in the book from eternity. Only children who die as children and the elect who receive Christ keep their name in the book (Mark 10:14-15; John 3:3; 1 John 5:4; Revelation 3:5; Revelation 20:15). No other way makes sense.

 

[Yeshua1]

Don't teach what scripture does not teach.

Scriptures tells us the the secret things belong top God, and this would be one of those things!

 

[Yeshua1]

The elect have there names in the book before creation. God is fully omniscient. Everyone's name is also in the book from eternity. Only children who die as children and the elect who receive Christ keep their name in the book (Mark 10:14-15; John 3:3; 1 John 5:4; Revelation 3:5; Revelation 20:15). No other way makes sense.

The mnames of JUST the saved are written down, never to be blotte dout!

 

[atpollard]

We are talking about the Moral aspects of the law!

You said there are 10 Commandments and not just 2 Commandments. One of the 10 Commandments specifically demands that the ‘Sabbath’ (which is Saturday) be kept Holy (Set apart for God). Is that a requirement or not? Now you are just plain confusing me.

How does one “Morally” obey so specific a command while “Actually” violating it?

 

[1689Dave]

Scriptures tells us the the secret things belong top God, and this would be one of those things!

Everything today's prophecy buffs cut and paste from scripture to support their wildest imaginations?

 

[robycop3]

I believe that when one acquires the mental ability to know right from wrong one is condemned of one doesn't believe in Jesus as Lord & savior. Even if one never sins otherwise, not believing in Jesus is itself a sin, and, as we know, one sin makes one guilty of all.

 

[37818]

Nope, as the scriptures teach to us that we are all condemned and lost sinners when born, and then God chooses to save us, and when we receive Jesus as Lord thru faith, we are forever secured in the Book that has the names ofall of the redeemed from Eternity!

Children who die as children who are not of age to accept God's gift on their own accord, their names would be in the book of life (Mark 10:14-15; Revelation 20:15).

". . . little children . . . for such is the kingdom of God. . . ."

 

[37818]

I believe that when one acquires the mental ability to know right from wrong one is condemned of one doesn't believe in Jesus as Lord & savior. Even if one never sins otherwise, not believing in Jesus is itself a sin, and, as we know, one sin makes one guilty of all.

Not anyone never sins, except the Son of God (Mark 10:18; 1 John 3:4-5). Even the children for whom Christ died to save (Psalm 58:3; 2 Corinthians 5:14; Mark 10:14-15).

 

[loDebar]

The verse says you are condemned already and remain in that state until you believe.

KEEPING A LAW does not matter.

The condemned prisoner on death row getting a good behavior award does not change the sentence.

 

[loDebar]

The Biblical narrative has little to say about how we are condemned already, it is about saving the condemned.
We know it is not through a physical line.

We know God did not judge us

We know Jesus does not judge flesh and blood.

 

[Aaron]

blah, blah, bla-bla-bla-bla blah.

Believe it or not, wrath is coming because of fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry, Colossians 3:6.

 

[Aaron]

That is why one is condemned. The way of escape is faith in Jesus Christ. He is the Ark. Once the last soul has entered, the way will be shut, and the windows of Heaven will open and fire will consume this world and everything and everyone left.

 

[loDebar]

blah, blah, bla-bla-bla-bla blah.

Believe it or not, wrath is coming because of fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry, Colossians 3:6.

Are you saying Jesus must have been incorrect?

 

[Aaron]

Are you saying Jesus must have been incorrect?

LOL. No, I'm sayin you ain't hearin' 'im.

 

[loDebar]

LOL. No, I'm sayin you ain't hearin' 'im.

He that hath the Son hath life, he that hath not the Son hath not life

What can you add?

 

[Aaron]

When you get ears to hear, we'll continue the the discussion.

 

[loDebar]

you are saying nothing, a legalistic that thinks good behavior allows you to get out or death row.
you pick and choose verses you want to obey,
A legalistic thinks they can help God

 

[37818]

". . . is condemned already, . . ." -- John 3:18.
". . . For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; . . ." -- Romans 3:23.
". . . But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: . . ." -- 2 Corinthians 4:3.
". . . And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. . . ." -- Revelation 20:15.
". . . will not blot out his name out of the book of life, . . ." -- Revelation 3:5.

 

[percho]

I believe that when one acquires the mental ability to know right from wrong one is condemned of one doesn't believe in Jesus as Lord & savior. Even if one never sins otherwise, not believing in Jesus is itself a sin, and, as we know, one sin makes one guilty of all.

Was that, mental ability, acquired, by eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? Gen 3:11