Illegal aliens spreading Covid

[Reynolds]

that’s about as effective as saying, those of you who don’t want people to die from drunk driving shouldn’t drink and leave the drunk drivers alone.

Both the drunk drivers and innocent people die because of people being irresponsible.


Nope. For instance, my aunt has a blood clotting disorder and cannot receive it. Her health and safety depends on other people being responsible. She is not a rarity.


No, unlike you, I care about people unlike me. If you think I “should be happy” that other might die, you have seriously misjudged me. I am a disciple of Jesus. Loving my neighbor (and even enemies) is a priority.


That’s nonsense. The vaccine requires an active immune system to function. A vaccinated person can gain immunity through exposure, just like unvaccinated. But unvaccinated might not survive the initial infection.

Your aunt can take the vax because it does not cause blood clots, supposedly. The Dui analogy is stupid. If you want to use it, the vax would be like armour on your car that would bounce the drunk driver off and leave you unharmed. Wait and see, y'all vaxed folks will be reliant on boosters the rest of your lives.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Just like your avatar. Yet new people here most likely believe it is you.

There are a number of people here who have used, or currently use, a photo of someone other than themselves as their avatar.

If someone asks, I tell them who it is.

Does it assuage your white guilt?

I don’t have “white guilt.” Do questions like that help assuage your crippling fear?

Maybe you should get permission to use him. It’s the least you could do.

That’s a decent point. I changed it.

 

[Baptist Believer]

please name the Trump and Q cultists on this board. I dare you.

I don’t accept dares.

While you are at it define cultist as it pertains to each and provide evidence of the specific board members you name that show your accusation is true and not a false witness name calling event simply because someone had the audacity to disagree with you.

That would require those persons to be self-aware enough to recognize their error.

I doubt you will try. You will likely run away and ignore this post like you do when you get cornered. Kind of like you did when you were asked to proved specifics in the senate report about Trump that actually said the exact opposite.

The report did not say the “exact opposite,” except in the Republican summary that ignored the evidence in the report. At the time, I was extremely busy and I knew it was a useless exercise since most of you who defend Trump at all costs don’t accept evidence contrary to what you want to believe. That’s why there are so many around here who still claim the 2020 election was “stolen,” for instance.

Your posts used to be reasoned but ever since Trump got into office you have lost your way.

You have that backward. When Trump got into office, many of you lost the ability to think critically.

Maybe he just brought out your true colors. Sad

He certainly revealed yours.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Your aunt can take the vax because it does not cause blood clots, supposedly.

Thank you, Dr. Reynolds. However, her doctor strongly advised her not to take it, but ask her family and friends to get the vaccine.

 

[Revmitchell]

I don’t accept dares.

Just as I thought. You will not support your vague accusations against board members. These so called cultists disagree with you so get nasty.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Just as I thought. You will not support your vague accusations against board members. These so called cultists disagree with you so get nasty.

No, they disagree with reality in the name of Jesus. It undermines the gospel witness for those of us who live in reality. It is just another stumbling block for the lost, and one day we all will have to stand before Christ to account for our every word.

I’m just calling people out in hopes that they will repent (think a new way).

But it is clear that some of you are cultists. You tell us so.

 

[Reynolds]

Thank you, Dr. Reynolds. However, her doctor strongly advised her not to take it, but ask her family and friends to get the vaccine.

We going by the CDC here. Her Doctor not listening to CDC. Maybe she needs find a doctor who goes by CDC recommendations.
My doctor told me not to take Vax, so there you go. All you need is a Dr tell you not to take it.....

 

[carpro]

While millions of untested and unvaccinated Trump and Q-cultists spread fear about COVID-19 vaccines and spread the virus much more effectively than illegal aliens, while trying to blame the spread on others.


The idiots are here on Baptistboard.

Surely you realize how idiotic that sounds. Well, maybe not.

 

[Baptist Believer]

We going by the CDC here. Her Doctor not listening to CDC. Maybe she needs find a doctor who goes by CDC recommendations.

I will accept the opinion of an expert who knows my aunt's situation first hand and has evaluated the CDC guidelines than a guy on a Baptist discussion board (who does not know how vaccines work) that is trying to practice medicine from the CDC site.

My doctor told me not to take Vax, so there you go. All you need is a Dr tell you not to take it.....

Fair enough. I hope your doctor is correct.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Surely you realize how idiotic that sounds. Well, maybe not.

I'm sure it sounds idiotic to you. That's the problem.

 

[carpro]

I'm sure it sounds idiotic to you. That's the problem.

You're living on another planet in your head. Some of your comments are worse than science fiction. Really out there. Twilight zone material.

 

[carpro]

Bottom line, the Dems care nothing about preventing the spread of COVID or they wouldn't have encouraged illegals to overwhelm the border then let them in without at least first forcing them to be vax'd.

It's all about political power. they don't care how many Americans illegals kill...either by disease or criminal act.

 

[carpro]

No, they disagree with reality in the name of Jesus. It undermines the gospel witness for those of us who live in reality. It is just another stumbling block for the lost, and one day we all will have to stand before Christ to account for our every word.

I’m just calling people out in hopes that they will repent (think a new way).

But it is clear that some of you are cultists. You tell us so.

Sanctimonious drivel for political purposes. Pathetic.

 

[Reynolds]

I will accept the opinion of an expert who knows my aunt's situation first hand and has evaluated the CDC guidelines than a guy on a Baptist discussion board (who does not know how vaccines work) that is trying to practice medicine from the CDC site.


Fair enough. I hope your doctor is correct.

So. We all happy. Your sister listen to her Doc and I will listen to mine. We will both disregard what CDC says. Look at the guidelines. They do not exclude her.

I actually think her Dr. is 100% correct, but that creates a problem for you point of view. According to CDC, the JJ vax is the only one that causes blood clots and they occur only in a "statistically insignificant" number. Why would her Doc not want her to take a vax that doesn't cause blood clots? He knows something we are not being told, obviously.

 

[Reynolds]

I will accept the opinion of an expert who knows my aunt's situation first hand and has evaluated the CDC guidelines than a guy on a Baptist discussion board (who does not know how vaccines work) that is trying to practice medicine from the CDC site.


Fair enough. I hope your doctor is correct.

I am going to ask you again some you avoided the question earlier. I agree with your family members doctor. The problem for you is that you are saying we should follow CDC guidelines, because they are the real experts. According to CDC, she can take the vaccines. The JJ vax is the only one linked to blood clots, but CDC says the rate of occurrence is statistically insignificant.
So, why is your sisters doctor recommending she not take the vaccines? According to CDC, they are "safe" and do not cause blood clots. Your Sisters Dr know something we don't? Is he not following the science? One or the other had to be true.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I am going to ask you again some you avoided the question earlier. I agree with your family members doctor. The problem for you is that you are saying we should follow CDC guidelines, because they are the real experts.

Correct.

According to CDC, she can take the vaccines. The JJ vax is the only one linked to blood clots, but CDC says the rate of occurrence is statistically insignificant.
So, why is your sisters doctor recommending she not take the vaccines?

A couple of things:
(1) Not my sister, my elderly aunt. (That's my mother's sister.)
(2) I hope you realize that I neither know every aspect of my aunt's health situation, nor have I ever examined her medical records. There are likely things that I don't know.

According to CDC, they are "safe" and do not cause blood clots. Your Sisters Dr know something we don't?

Obviously. He knows her entire medical history and has seen her tests. He also has a medical degree and years of experience practicing medicine.

He has advised her to ask her family and friends to take the vaccine, if possible, because that protects her. I realize you are trying to insinuate he is anti-COVID vaccine, but that's not the reality.

Is he not following the science?

Since you haven't been vaccinated, you don't know that they ask a number of questions before you receive the vaccine, and one has to review a list of conditions provided by the drug manufacturer (in my case, Pfizer) that recommend you either do not take their product or consult a physician because of concerns about interaction.

It's clear you don't know enough about "the science" or the process.

One or the other had to be true.

Correct. You are ignorant of a lot of key details.

 

[Reynolds]

Correct.


A couple of things:
(1) Not my sister, my elderly aunt. (That's my mother's sister.)
(2) I hope you realize that I neither know every aspect of my aunt's health situation, nor have I ever examined her medical records. There are likely things that I don't know.


Obviously. He knows her entire medical history and has seen her tests. He also has a medical degree and years of experience practicing medicine.

He has advised her to ask her family and friends to take the vaccine, if possible, because that protects her. I realize you are trying to insinuate he is anti-COVID vaccine, but that's not the reality.


Since you haven't been vaccinated, you don't know that they ask a number of questions before you receive the vaccine, and one has to review a list of conditions provided by the drug manufacturer (in my case, Pfizer) that recommend you either do not take their product or consult a physician because of concerns about interaction.

It's clear you don't know enough about "the science" or the process.


Correct. You are ignorant of a lot of key details.

Sister, Granny, Auntie, baby mama, whoever.

I am going by the CDC guidance. Have you read it? Seems you have not. Your statements do not line up with theirs. You are full of spin and misinformation. I have seen the questionnaire. The questions on there will outright disqualify almost no one from being vaccinated. It will just change which vaccine they receive.

Yep. I did not get vaccinated because my DR. told me not to. He is more of an expert than you. Knows my medical history, etc. etc. and all that crap.
He subscribes to the theory T cell immunity is far superior to the jab. Newest data seems to agree.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

...
Obviously. He knows her entire medical history and has seen her tests. He also has a medical degree and years of experience practicing medicine.

He has advised her to ask her family and friends to take the vaccine, if possible, because that protects her. I realize you are trying to insinuate he is anti-COVID vaccine, but that's not the reality. ...

Something doesn’t seem to add up here. How would someone like her benefit from being around fully vaccinated people like the Texas Dem superspreaders who fled to Washington, DC?

The doctor's advice sounds more like relying on a false sense of security rather than going by the science. Isn’t the best bet for someone like her to be around few people, all of whom are masked and distanced?

 

[Baptist Believer]

I am going by the CDC guidance.

Good. Then you may need to wear a mask. I'm back in a mask today.

Your statements do not line up with theirs. You are full of spin and misinformation.

Uh huh. CDC guidelines do not overrule the care of a doctor.

I'm simply reporting what she has told me. I don't know her medication, her medical history (except that she had a stroke about 15 years ago), and has the heart condition that runs in all the women in her family.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Something doesn’t seem to add up here. How would someone like her benefit from being around fully vaccinated people like the Texas Dem superspreaders who fled to Washington, DC?

It's better than being around unvaccinated people. Vaccinated people are less likely to build up enough of a viral load to shed.

The doctor's advice sounds more like relying on a false sense of security rather than going by the science. Isn’t the best bet for someone like her to be around few people, all of whom are masked and distanced?

You will be relieved to know that her son is someone who wholeheartedly embraces QAnon and refuses to get vaccinated or wear a mask. He doesn't believe COVID is real, that the vaccine will eventually kill those who receive it, and that his mother should not be around ANY persons who are vaccinated, since she will "catch" the vaccine from them. Of course, he is over there all the time.

So you get your wish.